Congress moves to require women to register for military draft

[Crabtownboy]

Good idea or bad idea?


House lawmakers took a large step toward putting female soldiers on the front lines on Wednesday, approving legislation requiring women to register for the draft.

Members of the House Armed Services committee passed the measure as part of the panel’s version of the defense spending bill for fiscal year 2017, according to the Associated Press.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/28/congress-moves-require-women-register-draft/

 

[Salty]

Should be a stand-alone bill - NOT part of a finance bill

 

[Rob_BW]

They want equality, so let them have it.

But, it means nothing. This is the post nuclear age, so any engagement that would require a draft would also involve canned sunshine before we could get the draftees mobilized and trained.

 

[Rob_BW]

Oh, and if you're looking for bad ideas, try this one:

http://www.armytimes.com/story/mili...armys-first-female-infantry-officer/83591066/

 

[Crabtownboy]

I suggest it is a bad idea to harass her.

 

[Kevin]

Just a thought here.

If they were to re-instate the draft with no exceptions for school or rich parents etc, it would be a great way to get rid of a lot of these babies taking up space in our Universities. Canada probably wouldn't take them, and Mexico for sure doesn't want them, so I don't know where they could run off and hide.

Maybe some muslom country, and they could volunteer to join ISIS. Whatever it takes to get the whining little brats out of here.

 

[Don]

I suggest it is a bad idea to harass her.

The soldier in your picture was a volunteer, not a draftee. As were the females in your OP picture.

Since your thread is about draftees, you need to take that into consideration.

 

[Don]

Oh, and if you're looking for bad ideas, try this one:

http://www.armytimes.com/story/mili...armys-first-female-infantry-officer/83591066/

Why is it a bad idea?

 

[Crabtownboy]

The soldier in your picture was a volunteer, not a draftee. As were the females in your OP picture.

Since your thread is about draftees, you need to take that into consideration.

So tell the publication. They are the ones who put the photos in the article.

Back to the topic. Should young women have to register for the draft?

 

[Kevin]

Back to the topic. Should young women have to register for the draft?

Yes they should have to register for the draft. That does not mean I agree with it

 

[Don]

So tell the publication. They are the ones who put the photos in the article.

Back to the topic. Should young women have to register for the draft?

Was completely related to the topic, so no need to go back to it. I expect you to utilize critical thinking when you copy and paste.

Yes, women should be included in the draft. It's a meaningless gesture, as the only way we'll implement a draft is with a major mobilization of forces, which would indicate a scale of warfare that, in this day and time, is global and not just between two countries. That is the strategy of the current world leaders, isn't it? To approach such conflicts as coalitions?

 

[Rob_BW]

Why is it a bad idea?

How will adding women to the infantry improve the infantry? Will it make them more lethal/effective?

 

[Alcott]

If we actually had a major campaign in which we had to reinstitute a draft, which included women, it will be interesting to see how many sudden pregnancies become apparent. Either to avoid the draft or to go in and then grab government benefits and hope to sit it out.

 

[Don]

How will adding women to the infantry improve the infantry? Will it make them more lethal/effective?

If we hold them to the same combat-effectiveness standards, what's the problem?

I used to have women assigned as the M60 gunner on my fire team. They carried their own weapon and ammo box. As long as they--or the males who were assigned M60 on their rotation, for that matter--held their own, carried their own weapon & ammos box, and watched my back, it was never a problem.

When they--or their male counterparts--looked for ways to not have to carry their own stuff, or couldn't be trusted to watch out for the rest of the fire team, then we found ways to get them off the team, or get ourselves transferred to other teams.

And it's when we relax the combat-effectiveness standards that we have a problem, not with the people who meet or exceed them.

 

[Rob_BW]

If we hold them to the same combat-effectiveness standards, what's the problem?

I used to have women assigned as the M60 gunner on my fire team. They carried their own weapon and ammo box. As long as they--or the males who were assigned M60 on their rotation, for that matter--held their own, carried their own weapon & ammos box, and watched my back, it was never a problem.

When they--or their male counterparts--looked for ways to not have to carry their own stuff, or couldn't be trusted to watch out for the rest of the fire team, then we found ways to get them off the team, or get ourselves transferred to other teams.

And it's when we relax the combat-effectiveness standards that we have a problem, not with the people who meet or exceed them.

The social dynamic will always be present. If you served alongside women, you know this is true. Why add this problem to those units who have to shoulder the brunt of combat? Why change the most well trained and lethal infantry the world has ever known, for a social experiment?

 

[Don]

The social dynamic will always be present. If you served alongside women, you know this is true. Why add this problem to those units who have to shoulder the brunt of combat? Why change the most well trained and lethal infantry the world has ever known, for a social experiment?

Because they've already allowed homosexuals to openly serve; and we already know they've served in secret for decades, even in combat units; so as you say, the social dynamic is always present, and has always been present in combat units.

Do I personnally think women should be in combat? NO. But since some women have pressured our lawmakers to allow it, then by golly, let's make it happen. And since the argument is about equality, then make it equal. Draft? Equality means registering for both men and women. Combat standards? Apply them equally for both men and women. Don't split it by saying "this standard for men, and this other standard for women."

As a colonel once told me, sometimes you just gotta let it fail for people to figure it out....

 

[Rob_BW]

As a colonel once told me, sometimes you just gotta let it fail for people to figure it out....

But when has that happened in the last 3 decades or so? That's one of the major problems in the military. We've gotten so good at carrying people, they don't even realize they're being carried.

 

[Kevin]

Why change the most well trained and lethal infantry the world has ever known, for a social experiment?

I know that it used to be the United States, but who holds that title now, Russia, China, Israel, maybe Monaco. The US is being fast tracked to being the JV team. Cry

How can you question one of the greatest social experiments satan has devised. Devilish

 

[SolaSaint]

This idea is just plain crazy. I don't want to live in a country that requires women to fight for the men.