Featured Historic(Chialist) pre-mill view?

Will someone please provide the scriptural basis for the Historic/Chialist pre-mill view?

 

It involves numerous aspects. Which are you wanting scripture for?

That Jesus will return?
That He will reign literally?
That there's a literal Tribulation?
That there's a literal man of sin?
The U-turn (as TCassidy mentioned)?
That believers will endure Tribulation?

There are others, but you probably get the idea. Whatchu want?

 

I think we would probably see, in antiquity, the same thing we see today: there would have been numerous views among them. It is likely that there would have been those who, for example, believed in a thousand year reign, but did not pick up on other issues that a study of Eschatology in detail would have brought out. I would also suggest that many cultures did not have the "ease" with which we are blessed with today, where, we have readily available manuscripts, do personal study (rather than hearing bits and pieces in public readings, which is replicated in this Age by those not as enthusiastic about Bible Study as most here are).

There are, I think, two primary views that could be examined. The first being that Israel as a nation holds no significance to Eschatology (and is used in analogy and metaphor to speak of the universal House of God), the second being that the Nation will receive the promises of God as recounted in the Prophecy of the Old Testament and the New.

The only thing I would suggest to anyone interested in Eschatology, is that before drawing conclusions and then building off those in study, simply study all relevant matters and reserve conclusion to a time when those relevant matters have been calculated. I think both sides make some very convincing arguments to support their view, but this is true of all important issues we look at. For example, Eternal Security is, seemingly, convincingly validated and invalidated by the two opposing groups. But, only one side can be, of course, correct.


God bless.

 

Thanks JamesL. How about the post trib pre mill timing of the rapture?

 

Sure, right after you provide the historic premill view of Chiliasm.

I don't mind commenting on what Scripture their views are based on, but don't particularly want to scrabble in the history itself.


God bless.

 

Hi Darrell C, I have no interest in debating history, but since many of us hold differing view, it would be useful for someone to explain particular scriptures such that they support a post trib, pre mill rapture.
Otherwise there would seem to be no basis for bible study.

 

I came up with this for the Chilast view, the chili cookoff will last 1000 years.

 

I do not think Chialist is the same as Chiliast or Chiliasm. BTW, the OP contained no scripture supporting the view.

 

The only thing really relevant to the OP would be the timing of Christ's return in regards to the Millennial Kingdom. Pre, Post, and Mid-Trib believers all fall into that category. The OP has expressed the desire to look at this view which would be contrasted with a Post Millennial view, rather than a Post-Trib view.

If you would like to discuss the very Biblical and very supportable truth that the Pre-Trib Rapture is the most logical position to take, start a thread, state your objections, and I promise you, I will flood that thread with a cascade of the Biblical Presentation for the Pre-Tribulation Rapture.

Fair enough?


God bless.