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Creation vs Evolution teaching

Discussion in 'Creation vs. Evolution' started by Christomas ✞, Sep 24, 2016.

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    This former baptist brother Andrew Wommack is teaching about Creation vs evolution in three weeks from his TV-Broadcast.
    http://www.awmi.net/video/tv/#/2012/week40/monday
    He is talking from the Bible and interviewing scientists.

    I would really recommend you to listen what he has to say, his other TV-Broadcasts are just awesome!
     
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    Where does he stand on Genesis?
     
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    He and also myself stand for what's written in The Bible.
    What The Bible say (Gods Word) we have to accept and adjust after it.

    • ”There is a path before each person that seems right, but it ends in death.”
    ‭‭Proverbs‬ ‭16:25‬ ‭NLT‬‬
     
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    I guess what I'm asking is, does he affirm the Biblical view of a young earth?
     
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    Of cause!
     
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    LOL! Well you never know. He's in the minority in the Church today. John Piper, Tim Keller and all the modern stars reject the book of Genesis in this regard. I'll check Mr. Wommack out.
     
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    "Church today."...
    •”Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.”
    ‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭13:8‬ ‭KJV‬‬

    We can't cut and paste in the Holy Bible.
     
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    Tell me about it. But the truth is, only a handful of seminaries in the US teach Genesis as it plainly reads. The vast majority teach compromised versions. That's why I'm always wary of pastors that have gone to seminary.
     
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    Listen to the link that I've posted, there brother Andrew explains it pretty clear.
     
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    I can't get your link to work, but I did find this.


    Good on him if he holds to biblical creationism, but it appears he's into word of faith doctrine, which sends up some red flags. If that's not the case, let me know. I'm listening to some clips now.

    A correct view of Creation is very big, but discernment on hyper charisma is also important for me.
     
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    I've listened to a little more, and I'm more disturbed. Sounds like classic Word Of Faith theology. Mr. Wommack actually believes we have the same power that Christ had on earth. From what I can see, Wommack may actually be a false teacher. I hope not, but this is really bad teaching. I'd urge you to take a closer look.
     
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    You mean less than 10 million years?
     
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    Hmm, strange that the my link didn't work. However it was just the Monday TV-Broadcast that was "broken."
    Press Tuesday and watch the other days.
    Here is the audio version of Monday Broadcast:
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.awmi.au...db2ff712a2e60e05462dcaf4863387b31e56657e82244

    Wow, pretty big/long link, but I'm sure it will work! ;)

    //Blessed weekend, Richard.
    (Eph 1:3)
     
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    I mean death came after Adam sinned agains God.
    • ”Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; ...”
    ‭‭Romans‬ ‭5:12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

    So yes, I believe in a "young earth."
    Around 6000 years old.
    God told this in his Word, so this is what I believe.

    If you and others look "outside of the Word."
    The gravitation becomes a litre weaker year by year and if you count backwards with the same phase, human life wouldn't been possible
    10 000 years ago.

    Also outside every major river there is just as much sediment eroded as it would would be since the flood of Noah.
    //Shalom, Richard.
     
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    I'll take your word for it, he's a young earth creationist. But listening the the heresy pointed out in the other video, I don't see the point in investing time in him. I'm be curious if you also subscribe to the things pointed out in that video.
     
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    I know who Andrew is.
    He's one of my brothers in Christ!
    I don't like people who just speak bad things over family members in Christ, who has the same belief as him, me and everyone else in the Word of Faith community.

    Instead, I would like you to listen what he has to say, instead of listening to others opinions...

    //God Bless, Richard.
     
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    I may be interested in listening. What are his scientific credentials?

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    I have listened to him. I even provided the video. I'm actually asking you to listen to him in light of Biblical teaching.

    And I've done my due diligence in looking into word of faith teaching. It's dangerous heresy. There are many good materials on it. Check out Christianity in Crisis by Hanegraaff. Very eye opening.

    And I'm not sure this is a brother in Christ, that's the point. And if he is, he shouldn't be teaching. The clips I heard were disturbing at best. What I'm asking you to do is be openminded about this. Do you really agree with the statements he's making in the clip I provided?
     
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    In this particular TV-Broadcast he's interviewing scientists and teach from the Bible.
     
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    What I'm getting at is what kind of scientists? What I've found to be true is that the forerunners of the debate are generally unqualified at all, or qualified in the wrong fields of study to debate creation versus evolution.

    I myself am a staunch believer in a literal six day creation, but I get so angry hearing Christians use callable logic to try to prove it. Many people arguing for creation are doing more harm than good, by making us look like idiots.

    Edited for spelling.
     
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