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Any here used the Zondervan Niv Study Bible yet?
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It is a close second to the ESV in a complete library sense. Better concordance than most study bibles, exhaustive notes that rival the ESV, great color photos, maps and charts throughout. Very good book introductions. Helpful articles in the back on a variety of topics. It leans reformed like the ESV, but doesnt make a huge fuss about. It tries to be balanced in Revelation and present multiple view points.
Chronologically presents the events of the gospels differently(moslty between John and synotpoics) than the ESV study Bible. It also holds to a AD 30 crucifixion vs the AD 33 of thr ESV. Some nice differences to help provide a balanced prospective.....i could go on and on. If you have any detailed questions, let me know.
To me it is hands down one of the top 2 study bibles out to there.
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Chronologically presents the events of the gospels differently(moslty between John and synotpoics) than the ESV study Bible. It also holds to a AD 30 crucifixion vs the AD 33 of thr ESV. Some nice differences to help provide a balanced prospective.....i could go on and on. If you have any detailed questions, let me know.
To me it is hands down one of the top 2 study bibles out to there.
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Thanks for that review.
So the Esv bible would be more calvinisticin thology then?
Equal in all other featues prety much?
Basically would come down to which verson preferred?
Yes, the Calvinist view point is more pronounced in the ESV study Bible.
The rest of the Bible content is give and take....the book intros are better on the ESV Study Bible, but the concordance is better in the new Zondervan NIV study Bible. Pretty close to being equal study Bibles overall.
Absolutely would come down to preference. I would pick based upon which translation you preferred.
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Those woul be te 2 best ones now availble....
Esv has been called the Calvinist/reformed bile, Niv the Evangelical one!
Man, you really need to do some editing.
The keyboard posting in from most ofthe timehas real sticky keys!
Happens when reading certain people's post and spits out pop.
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My wife uses the old NIV study Bible(84 version) still. She prefers it to the new one. She refuses to change translation from the '84 edition. She stocked up on the '84 translation on Christianbook.com
Hard to blame her. It is waht she grew up on. Overall, I believe the new Zondervan Study Bible to be the better of the 2, but I do acknowledge that older edition is a fine Study Bible as well. It is weird having "color" in your Bible as one poster noted, but you do get used to it.
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Print is too small for me though! And do notlike ho Gender inclusive update is either...My wife uses the old NIV study Bible(84 version) still. She prefers it to the new one. She refuses to change translation from the '84 edition. She stocked up on the '84 translation on Christianbook.com
It is weird having "color" in your Bible as one poster noted, but you do get used to it.
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Trying to use "gift of tongues!"
Meant to say Gender Inclusive rendering in 2011 update..
The TNIV, NRSV and NLT all use more inclusive language than the NIV.
The NET uses slightly less. It's a non-issue.
This thread shouldn't have been posted in the Translations Forum, the topic is a Study Bible,... that is the notes that comes with the Bible.
Study notes are not "gender inclusive".
The study notes have very little to do with a particular translation (this can be shown when you can purchase the same notes with different translations).
The NIV Study Bible's notes fit the translation. They are rather broadly focused so as not to offend a particular group.
The first place I look at in a Study Bible's notes is Genesis 1.
The NIV SB notes in this section wouldn't offend a young earther or a old earther
The notes point to areas of agreement.
Recently Study Bible's notes have been making the Bible's thicker and heavier.
At some point a student must realize these are only a simple introduction to the verse or topic being discussed.... a fuller more detailed study requires outside reference material.
Rob
Study notes are not "gender inclusive".
The study notes have very little to do with a particular translation (this can be shown when you can purchase the same notes with different translations).
The NIV Study Bible's notes fit the translation. They are rather broadly focused so as not to offend a particular group.
The first place I look at in a Study Bible's notes is Genesis 1.
The NIV SB notes in this section wouldn't offend a young earther or a old earther
The notes point to areas of agreement.
Recently Study Bible's notes have been making the Bible's thicker and heavier.
At some point a student must realize these are only a simple introduction to the verse or topic being discussed.... a fuller more detailed study requires outside reference material.
Rob
The new Nv does use much more than the 1984 Niv used, and also more than theNasb/Esv, correct?
It does. But laying that aside it is an improved translation of the NIV84. If you use the NAC or Pillar commentaries. The vast majority of places where the NIV84 was critized by the commentators, the new version fixed. Example would be how the NIV84 has John using the word "faith" several times in the books he authored. However John never used the Greek word for faith. He used so form of belief or believe. The NIV2011 corrected the mistranslations.
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And it did a good job correcting Sarx as used in the 1984 edition, but still see th Gender renderings as being worse than theimprovemets!