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Free-will, Lucifer and God

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AndThisGospel

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AndThisGospel said:
I suggest skipping these middle men and going straight to the source, i.e, the Bible.
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Why? 2 Tim 4: 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, 4 and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.
 
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Based on a previous comment, I'd like to point out for the record that you always capitalize the first word of an English sentence.
 
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I really would suggest avoiding trying to start a urological competition here.

Many have tried (myself included), but I'm not sure any have succeeded.
 
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AndThisGospel

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StefanM said:
I really would suggest avoiding trying to start a urological competition here.

Many have tried (myself included), but I'm not sure any have succeeded.
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Okay, good point....This proves our natures are alive and well. Who said we didn't have fallen natures? Some idiot.
 
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AndThisGospel said:
You are referring to John 8:44 where Jesus said "He was a murderer from the beginning"....

Question: What beginning?
  1. From the creation of the "anointed cherub who covers" or
  2. From his fall?
If # 1 then God is the originator and creator of sin.

If # 2 then God is not the creator of sin, but rather He created this cherub perfect and then this angel revolted and became God's adversary.
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In the beginning is self defined. Exactly the beginning for all existence - Genesis 1:1, as there is no other. And it does state that God created all, so since nothing but the Godhead existed before the beginning, satan and his companions were created. There is nothing wrong with that thinking, is there? God created fallible man, fallible beasts and fallible devils.
 
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Yeshua1

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AndThisGospel said:
I suggest skipping these middle men and going straight to the source, i.e, the Bible.
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We hold that scripture alone is final authority to us, but still should consult other books and authors for information such as history, bckground, theology, etc!
 
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