God commands disobedience to his word

Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

The prohibition here is not the making of the graven image, it is the bowing before them and worshipping them.

Moses made the brazen serpent in obedience to God’s command. He did not, as did Aaron(Ex. 32), make the graven image to be worshipped.

 

There are principles to be held higher priority, even against the appearance of his own word.

But really God is those principles themselves speaking from your heart.


For example Jesus REFUSES to help a Pagan woman who has a sick Pagan daughter.
The disciples are sick and tired of her whining and whining.
He tells her "no" three times and on top of that he calls her a DOG.

She doesn't give up even after God tells her NO three times.

Then Jesus said to her, “O woman, your faith is great; it shall be done for you as you wish.” And her daughter was healed at once.

That's a compliment going to someone who is not christian, not even Jewish, and its not even about her its her pagan daughter.



Matthew 15

21Jesus went away from there, and withdrew into the district of Tyre and Sidon. 22And a Canaanite woman from that region came out and began to cry out, saying, “Have mercy on me, Lord, Son of David; my daughter is cruelly demon-possessed.” 23But He did not answer her a word. And His disciples came and implored Him, saying, “Send her away, because she keeps shouting at us.” 24But He answered and said, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” 25But she came and began to bow down before Him, saying, “Lord, help me!” 26And He answered and said, “It is not good to take the children’s bread and throw it to the dogs.” 27But she said, “Yes, Lord; but even the dogs feed on the crumbs which fall from their masters’ table.” 28Then Jesus said to her, “O woman, your faith is great; it shall be done for you as you wish.” And her daughter was healed at once.

 

The original Hebrew word was murder, not kill. There is a big difference. But eh...

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Actually, it's "thou shalt do no murder", not "thou shalt not kill". Further, in context, it's clearly referring to man taking the prerogative that belongs only to God to take human life. God, as the creator and owner of all human life, is well within His authority to authorize governments to take human life. Romans 13 is a good example of this.

Also, there are no "women, children, and babies that (sic) are without sin".

As usual, you only posted that portion of the text you believe confirms your belief. The very next verse tells us that He's speaking specifically of graven images that are the object of worship.

Given that it represents Christ, I'd be careful what I call "Satanic" if I were you.

Yes, because the Old Covenant had been fulfilled. What would have been the point of Christ freeing them from the law, only for them to place themselves back under the law?

See Matthew 5:18. The key word here is, "...until all is fulfilled", which is precisely what Christ did on the cross. It's why He said "It is finished".

Only to you.

Circular logic. If you didn't believe in "Bible alone" (by which, I assume, you're erroneously referring to the Biblical doctrine of sola scriptura), you wouldn't keep citing the Bible as your source.

 

Actually, this was explained to you in another thread. God did not "change His mind".

God's action was contingent, based on Israel's actions.

In other words, God said, "I will do X. But if Israel does Y, then I will not do X.", not "My previous idea wasn't the best solution, so I've decided to do something else".

 

Hmm... a man who showed me much kindness when I was a child was ordered to shoot German soldiers during WW2 & it haunted him for life

 

You worship the "god" in your mirror.

 

As it does all soldiers, but that isn't really relevant to this discussion.

 

He also said, "thou shalt not eat." If we allow ourselves to take verses out of context or quote incomplete passages, we can attribute to God many things.

In the passage you use as your proof text, God is giving them instructions about worship. This passage is not dealing with the actual practice of making graven images. That graven images would be made is very clear in verse 5 when God said, "Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them." The implication is clearly that graven images would exist.

In fact, God Himself ordered the making of graven images that would sit over the mercy seat. Solomon, in I Kings 7, had many graven images to decorate the Temple. Nowhere do we find that God is displeased with this. Why? Because these were not made to be worshipped. They were not bowing down to these images. They were not viewing these images as if they were gods.

Contrast that with Exodus 32:4: "And he [Aaron] received them at their hand, and fashioned it with a graving tool, after he had made it a molten calf: and they said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt."

This is a clear violation of God's commandment. Simply carving out a child's toy or a decorative piece for the tent is not. Nor is following God's instructions to make a brazen serpent that will be a type of Christ.

 

Well I think it was relevant to the memory that in his heart, he felt he was murdering The German soldiers he was ordered to shoot were unarmed prisoners of war. It was his officers that gave him the orders to be carried out so he did not question them however that image of shooting them stayed with him all his life... it wasn’t his having his leg blown off, it wasn’t the seeing umteenth
Casualties... he was a sniper so shooting an enemy in the field did not consern him, he was doing his job. Rather it was the memory of shooting those unarmed men that was the haunt.

So how does one reconcile that... I’m just wondering as I remember this mans pain...may he finally Rest In Peace.

 

You will have little idea what the new covenant is or the need for it unless you understand the old covenant first. Far from obsolete, it tells the story of redemptive history. It speaks of Christ (Luke 24)

 

Because God has already said He doesn't do that.