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Rudy regrets turning down AG position

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Can you imagine if Rudy was AG? Can you imagine how different the world would be?
Probably the same. Jeff Sessions did an ethical thing to recuse himself. Giuliani would have likely done the same thing himself, if he were in the same situation as the Attorney General.

What you are looking at on the Sean Hannity show is the President's unofficial spokesman (Sean Hannity) who is potentially entangled with President Trump's legal situation (through Cohen), talking to one of President Trump's attorneys who is trying to sell a story to their base.

They are seeking to pass blame onto others, and Sessions is a handy scapegoat.
 

Calminian

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Probably the same. Jeff Sessions did an ethical thing to recuse himself. Giuliani would have likely done the same thing himself, if he were in the same situation as the Attorney General.

What you are looking at on the Sean Hannity show is the President's unofficial spokesman (Sean Hannity) who is potentially entangled with President Trump's legal situation (through Cohen), talking to one of President Trump's attorneys who is trying to sell a story to their base.

They are seeking to pass blame onto others, and Sessions is a handy scapegoat.

Do you have any evidence for any of the above? Including Russia collusion?
 

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Probably the same. Jeff Sessions did an ethical thing to recuse himself. Giuliani would have likely done the same thing himself, if he were in the same situation as the Attorney General.

What you are looking at on the Sean Hannity show is the President's unofficial spokesman (Sean Hannity) who is potentially entangled with President Trump's legal situation (through Cohen), talking to one of President Trump's attorneys who is trying to sell a story to their base.

They are seeking to pass blame onto others, and Sessions is a handy scapegoat.
Hmm, guess Mueller should recuse himself seeing Comey and Rosenstein are his Trump hater buddies

Mueller, Rosenstein, and Comey: The Three Amigos from the Deep State | Roger Stone | Stone Cold Truth
 

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Do you have any evidence for any of the above?
Jeff Sessions did an ethical thing by recusing himself because he was a part of the campaign that was being investigated.

I presume Giuliani is an ethical man. Do you have evidence otherwise? He has been hired as the President's attorney, so at this point he is arguing for his client. Do I need to prove that? Therefore, the words he says are all to advocate for Trump's position. They are not necessarily his own opinion.

One of Cohen's clients is Sean Hannity. Cohen thinks so and Hannity has said both that he was and that he wasn't, but it appears that he has been based on acknowledged payment and his request of Cohen for attorney-client privilege. Sean Hannity has made no secret of his extremely close relationship with the President. Do you doubt that?

The President and his team have characterized their administration and legal wranglings by assigning blame to others. That is obvious. The question is whether others are truly to blame or if the President is to blame. Sessions is a favorite punching bag for the President. I think everyone knows that, so just what evidence are you looking for?
 

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Hmm, guess Mueller should recuse himself seeing Comey and Rosenstein are his Trump hater buddies
This "Trump hater" garbage is beneath you. You are a decent and honorable man with formidable wisdom and intelligence. Why are you looking at this situation as a child (that is, if someone opposes the actions of another, they "hate" them)?

I know the President does that, but you are of much better character than the President.
 
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Calminian

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This "Trump hater" garbage is beneath you. You are a decent and honorable man with formidable wisdom and intelligence. Why are you looking at this situation as a child (that is, if someone opposes the actions of another, they "hate" them)?

I know the President does that, but you are of much better character than the President.

If you're not a Trump hater I'd had to see who is.
 

Calminian

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...Do you have evidence otherwise? ...

Yes, Rudy himself said he wouldn't have recused himself and has said numerous times Sessions should un-recuse himself. Plus countless friends of Sessions now say he should resign. Even Mark Levine.

So, I'm merely asking if you have evidence Rudy would immediately recuse himself. I'm assuming you have none.
 

HankD

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This "Trump hater" garbage is beneath you. You are a decent and honorable man with formidable wisdom and intelligence. Why are you looking at this situation as a child (that is, if someone opposes the actions of another, they "hate" them)?
I'm in good shape then - Jesus said we must become as a "child".
I know the President does that, but you are of much better character than the President.
Thank you, flattery will get you everywhere.
 

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Yes, Rudy himself said he wouldn't have recused himself and has said numerous times Sessions should un-recuse himself. Plus countless friends of Sessions now say he should resign. Even Mark Levine.

So, I'm merely asking if you have evidence Rudy would immediately recuse himself. I'm assuming you have none.
Just my impression that he is an honorable ethical man. Perhaps he is not, but I have no compelling evidence that he is not. I assume he is simply pushing a narrative on behalf of the President.
 

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I'm not defending them. But how is what you do any better? You constantly attack him. If Trump read your posts what do you think he'd conclude?
The President apparently honors “loyalty” above anything else. Allegedly, in the Trump world, one cannot critique what he is doing without being perceived as disloyal and a “hater.”

I doubt he would quietly tolerate anyone who said something that was not complimentary.

But that does not mean that I “hate” him. In fact, in my prayer before eating the lunch that is still in front of me, I prayed for the safety and guidance of both the President and Vice President as they have just landed in Dallas, a city that has been the site of presidential tragedy. One cannot hate people for whom you pray very long.

Have you prayed for the President today? If not, does the make you a “hater?”
 

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The President apparently honors “loyalty” above anything else. Allegedly, in the Trump world, one cannot critique what he is doing without being perceived as disloyal and a “hater.”

I doubt he would quietly tolerate anyone who said something that was not complimentary.

But that does not mean that I “hate” him. In fact, in my prayer before eating the lunch that is still in front of me, I prayed for the safety and guidance of both the President and Vice President as they have just landed in Dallas, a city that has been the site of presidential tragedy. One cannot hate people for whom you pray very long.

Have you prayed for the President today? If not, does the make you a “hater?”

I would highly doubt you pray for the President as much as I do, but only insofar as he accomplishes the will of God for the nations. So I pray he'll have success with the Supreme Court. And I pray he'll have success with the economy, and in fighting evil and in protecting our borders.

I'm curious it you're praying Trump has success in the Supreme Court appointing pro-life judges.

And I'm curious what God thinks all your attacks on the President. You even slandered him again in your above post, spreading the loyalty lie. That was actually debunked by Comey's memos.
 

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I would highly doubt you pray for the President as much as I do...
I’m glad you also pray for him.

I'm curious it you're praying Trump has success in the Supreme Court appointing pro-life judges.
Yes, among many other things.

And I'm curious what God thinks all your attacks on the President.
God knows my heart and motivations. He also knows what it took to rouse me from being a life-long Republican, to having to oppose the Party’s candidate. I was convinced, and remain convinced, that President Trump is a clear and present danger to American constitutional values and the rule of law. I am also convinced he does not have the character or emotional constitution to lead our nation.

You even slandered him again in your above post, spreading the loyalty lie.
It has been common knowledge for a very long time that Trump values loyalty above almost anything else.

That was actually debunked by Comey's memos.
That opinion was not based on the Comey memos, and I don’t recall anything that was reported on the Comey memos that contradicts that opinion.
 
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