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We did NOT evolve from the common ancestor of Apes...

Discussion in 'Creation vs. Evolution' started by BenWest, Oct 8, 2019.

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  1. HankD

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    We did NOT evolve from the common ancestor of Apes.

    This is good news!
     
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    Absolutely not. I show that Genesis and Science AGREE.

    I know enough to know that inside your genetics is the DNA of Mitochondrial Eve, a prehistoric woman, who lived on this Earth 150,000 years ago. I am guessing that you cannot tell us HOW her DNA got inside you. The problem is NOT what Scripture says, but what some religionists THINK it says. ONLY the people of the last days have the "increased knowledge" to actually understand Genesis. God told Daniel HOW He hid His scientific Truth in Scripture right in front of everyone's eyes:

    Dan 12:4 ¶ But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

    Sad to say, but some are still stuck in the Theology of superstitious men who lived more than 3,000 years ago. Want proof that we are living in the last days? It's the agreement of recently discovered scientific Truths first told of in Genesis. It's testable evidence of God.
     
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    Genesis 2:4-9 clearly states that Adam was made from the dust of the ground on the 3rd Day before plants, herbs and trees which grew on the 3rd Day according to Genesis 1:12.
    Genesis 1:21 clearly states that "every living creature that moveth" was created and brought forth from WATER on the 5th Day.

    Since Humans (Adam) first appeared on the 3rd Day and every other creature came forth from water (Genesis and Science AGREE) it is impossible that Humans could have possibly evolved from the common ancestor of Apes, which were created from WATER two Days AFTER Adam was made. The ToE is the biggest Satanic Lie ever forced upon our innocent children. Amen?
     
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    Simple science. Ok.

    Take apes and create a human.
     
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    I am a Biblical creationist and read Genesis as literal history. Are you gnostic?
     
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    I too am a person who sees God's Truth as True Historically. Genesis is NOT true to the discoveries of mankind IF you follow the superstitious theology of ancient Hebrew Theologians. Genesis is true to the recent discoveries of Science, which Scripture tells us will NOT happen, until the last days before Jesus returns. Daniel 12:4 This has insured that ONLY the people of the last days, with the increased knowledge available to us today, can find agreement between Genesis and Science.

    In the last days, God will "pour out His Spirit" Act 2:17 which is the Spirit of Truth, through Science which will confirm what God told us more than 3,000 years ago, in Genesis. It's the ONLY way to reach other religions, scientists and "ALL flesh", today. God insured that ONLY BY FAITH could one become a Spiritual Christian, since there are more than 30,000 denominations teaching their various "beliefs" which do not agree with Scripture, Science, History, Genetics nor Math.

    God's Truth in Genesis agrees in every way with every discovery of mankind IF you have the correct interpretation. That is because it was Authored by the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth, which MUST agree with every other discovered Truth, or God's Truth would be in error. Amen?
     
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    No. Science confirms the historical truth of Scripture. You have a creation before Creation--I forget the name of that theological idea. I am a Biblical Creationist.
     
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    The difference between us is your interpretation which does NOT agree with Scripture, science, history, genetics nor math. It's the way God wanted it to be. There are so many interpretations that it is impossible to believe them all. This insures that Humans MUST be saved by FAITH alone. Amen?
     
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    No. I believe Scripture.
     
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    I don't believe you can support that Scripturally. Can you refute this?

    1. Genesis 1:21 shows that every living creature that moveth was made from water on the 5th Day. Science recently discovered the same. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/26/s...-ancestor.html Jul 25, 2016

    2. Genesis 2:4 shows that the big bang was on the 3rd Day and Genesis 1:16 shows that it was the 4th Day before the first Stars were made. Science recently discovered the same. https://www.sciencenews.org/article/...-born-big-bang Feb 28, 2018 - The first stars lit the cosmos by 180 million years after the Big Bang,

    How long do you think it was from the 3rd to the 4th Day?
     
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    I believe that a day was 24 hours and that there was no big bang.
     
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    Not big enough. The theory has scientific problems. I am on my cell phone so I will give you a link in the morning. In fact, the name Big Bang was given as a joke.
     
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    BOOM!
     
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    Here is a short video by Dr. Terry Mortenson. He points out that engineers who have explosions in the labs do not win accolades because explosions cause chaos, not order.



    And here is a very recent article from Creation Ministries International about the scientific impossibility of Big Bang, which was named as a joke.

    Can Christians add the big bang to the Bible? - creation.com
     
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    hey maybe there was a big bang when it happened - I'll ask.
     
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    Let me know.
     
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    Yowm is the Hebrew name for "day" and it means a period of time, ANY period of time. In the KJV, the word day can mean 12 hours, 24 hours, a lifetime or Eternity. Also, IF there was no big bang, then how did the remnants of the first Stars get inside you. Was it magic?
     
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    From the site:

    The sun is said to exist before the earth, contrary to Genesis 1, which says God created the earth on Day One, but the sun and the stars on Day Four of Creation Week.

    False, since the Sun, Moon and Stars were made on the 4th day. Genesis 1:16 IOW, your site is not speaking the Truth of Scripture. Perhaps they should read the Bible instead of making up falsehoods.
    Scripture clearly shows that the present 2nd Heaven began at the end of 3rd day. Gen 2:4 Try again?
     
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    You will have to ask Jesus or Adam, since both were present when Jesus scattered the Stars throughout the present 2nd Heaven. Billy Graham used to say that he would have loved to have been there when Jesus caused the event which began the present world.
     
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