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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by asterisktom, Feb 21, 2020.

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  1. HankD

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    what we believe about them sometimes is wrong.
     
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    Not in this particular doctrine though!
     
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    I had a Church of Christ Elder on my front porch Saturday morning (what a great way to start a beautiful Saturday).. He was against all creeds, confessions, and even doctrinal statements. He said virtually the same exact thing. I had to remind him that our doctrinal statement is a summary of God-given truth. For example, he denied using the term Trinity since it wasn’t Scriptural. Then we went round and round... eventually, we got to the baptismal regeneration. Thanks for your post, Rob.
     
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    Most churches have a formal statement of beliefs, so they would been listing their theology, even though "only the Bible"
     
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    What about a church that defines its views in a "church covenant"? Do you see a difference?
     
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    [Tit 2:13 KJV] 13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

    appearing
    appearing

    ap·pear
    (ə-pîr′)
    intr.v. ap·peared, ap·pear·ing, ap·pears
    1.
    a. To become visible:

    Are you of the opinion that he has already "appeared"? If so, dose anyone have a photo?:Cautious
     
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    Them why preach a sermon right?

    Creeds and Confessions are only codified statements of Biblical truth yet many fear them unnecessarily
     
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    Of course, the title of the thread ('creeds vs the Bible') is erroneous and tendentious. Creeds and confessions are not opposed to the Bible.
    Here is the very first article of the 1689 Baptist confession: 'The Holy Scripture is the only sufficient, certain and infallible rule of all saving knowledge, faith and obedience.' How can that be opposed to the Bible?
     
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    Some people reject creeds and confessions because of their content. They do not want to be pinned down as to what they believe. They want the option to move the goal posts if necessary.

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    or some simply because they don't agree.
     
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    Yes, I do believe He already appeared in AD70. That was the glorious appearing. But the blessed hope is ongoing for all who are in Christ.
     
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    Oh good grief. Putting words in my mouth. If I had started a thread called NIV vs. KJV any intelligent person would know that I am not positing absolute opposition of one version against another. Use common sense man.

    But - since creeds are humanly formulated - there is always the danger that there are elements that are wrong. Are you really arguing that all creeds and confessions, throughout hjstory, are free of error?
     
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    The Bible pins me down as to what I can and cannot believe. A person who corrects me from the Bible is always appreciated.

    You do not know me, Reformed. Dont pretend to know what my motives are.
     
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    The Bible was not given to be taken without commentary or teaching or summary. Preachers and teachers are gifts to the church. I know of no Evangelical that takes any confession or creed to be an authority on par with the Scriptures. Now, you Preterists come awfully close to that. You must deny one fundamental, straightforward scriptural maxim about the Resurrection, and accept your commentary in order for your brand of Preterism to stand.
     
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    That is what I meant by "content".

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    I'm glad you appealed to common sense here, because any intelligent person can see what Paul was saying when He said "the dead in Christ shall rise."
     
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    Tell me what "fundamental, straightforward scriptural" verse or passage I am denying.
     
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    Narcissistic much? I did not have you in mind. I must have hit an inadvertent nerve.

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    Do you think I deny what Paul wrote?
     
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    Strange definition of narcissism. But, if you did not mean me, I apologize.
     
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