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Is the Death Rate really 6%? Does truth matter?

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Calminian, Apr 18, 2020.

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  1. Yeshua1

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    Current US deasth rate at about 1 percent!
     
    #41 Yeshua1, Apr 21, 2020
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    New York State
    11 counties.......... 0 deaths
    29 counties...........1-9 deaths
    11 counties...........10-40 deaths
    5 counties...........50-400 deaths
    3 Counties.........800-1400 deaths
    NY City................10,657 deaths......140,000 cases = 7.61%..........population 8.2 million = 1.7% infected....= 0.12% deaths of population
    + 57 counties.........4,171 deaths......112,000 cases = 3.72%...........................11.2 million = 1.0% infected....=0.03% death of population
    Grand total...........14,828 deaths......252,000...........= 5.88%...........................19.4 million = 1.29%..............= 0.07% death of population

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    1. There are 5 counties within NY City
    2. Most of the 8 counties w/ 50+ deaths are adjacent to NY City

    Total of 62 counties:

    Link for NY State info
    Should be easy to find the stats for your State/commonwealth
     
    #42 Salty, Apr 21, 2020
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    I honestly believe if there wasn't the media hype half of the people that are rushing to the hospital with COVID wouldn't rush to the hospital because of it.
     
    #43 Reformed1689, Apr 21, 2020
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    Again, how did you come up with that number?

    We cannot evaluate your post if you are ashamed to answer for yourself.

    The reason I ask is you make a statement and then ask for agreement. How can we know if you shy away from explaining your thought process?

    Do all who are exposed to the COVID-19 virus develop the COVID-19 disease? Are you considering all would be exposed?
     
    #44 JonC, Apr 21, 2020
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    Point of clarification, there is no Covid-19 virus, that is only the name of the disease. Sars-Cov-2 is the virus.
     
    #45 Reformed1689, Apr 22, 2020
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    Thank you.

    I notice the CDC speaks of the "virus" that causes the COVID-19 disease.

    Do you know if people get the Sars-Cov-2 virus but not COVID-19?
     
    #46 JonC, Apr 22, 2020
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    That I do not know. My guess would be yes, but I don't know.
     
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  8. Yeshua1

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    Were both created by China?
     
    #48 Yeshua1, Apr 22, 2020
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    MM, are you still unable to explain how you come up with that number?

    It is important when we tell what we think that we are capable and willing to explain how we arrived at our conclusions. There are several things that I wonder about when it comes to this virus, perhaps you can shed some light rather than adding to the confusion.
     
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    He's saying the virus, created in Chrna (Sars-Cov-2) is what causes the disease (COVID-19).

    I had been referring to the virus as COVID-19 wrongly.
     
    #50 JonC, Apr 22, 2020
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    While it is generally agreed that serology tests will show us there are a lot of previously undetected cases and then lower the calculated death rate, there are some problems with the Stanford and USC studies, one of which is their actual test which I thought you would be interested to know is from China from a company with a bit of a checkered past.

    New Covid-19 Antibody Study Results Are In. Are They Right?

    As more studies are done with actually validated tests, we will get a better idea of the true numbers and I expect there to be quite a lot of undetected cases. Which as I have said before, does not make covid19 is any less serious of a disease, and possibly more serious. The Stanford and USC data did look a bit unreasonable.
     
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    Nice try. Stanford University just has too good of a reputation. Also, New York showed about the same results. And then there is Germany and more tests are on the way.
     
    #52 church mouse guy, Apr 25, 2020
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    See how the world is falling apart from Covid, what will be happening when the "virus" of Revelation is unleashed?
     
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    The Democrat Party is trying to abolish the Bill of Rights. They are running Joe Biden, accused of rape and known to put his hands all over little girls, and they are using their ignorant reporters to smear honest people just as Mussolini used to beat respectable people up and then pour liquor all over them to discredit them. The media is like the NBA--they take their marching orders from the Chinese Communist Party. Yeah, this Chinese Virus is essentially defeated but our 50 Governors are still washing their hands and asking what the truth is.
     
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    Only bright news is that God still in control. and what they try for evil, God can turn it around for His glory and good!
     
    #55 Yeshua1, Apr 25, 2020
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    Just in case it got lost. Here are the two facts I thought you would be most interested in.

    New Covid-19 Antibody Study Results Are In. Are They Right?

    I’m sure good serology testing will show us that there are many undetected cases and lower the mortality rate calculations. Which should make us more concerned about how infective and difficult to control covid19 is, not less concerned.

    However these studies do not appear to be the ones who will give us good quality data for that information, not just because if the test they used but also their methodology and data analysis (the article highlights some) are widely criticized by the field. This is how peer review works, by opening up your paper to criticism we can all see the flaws in the research. Reputable universities and researchers get papers rejected all the time because they don’t pass the peer review process.
     
    #56 Gold Dragon, Apr 25, 2020
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