That COVID-19 test kit in your home could contain a toxic substance

[Revmitchell]

The substance is sodium azide, and Cincinnati Children's Hospital Medical Center's Drug and Poison Information Center has seen a surge in calls about exposures to the chemical since more people started self-testing for COVID-19 at home.


COVID-19 rapid home tests pose risk for toxic chemical

 

[canadyjd]

The substance is sodium azide, and Cincinnati Children's Hospital Medical Center's Drug and Poison Information Center has seen a surge in calls about exposures to the chemical since more people started self-testing for COVID-19 at home.


COVID-19 rapid home tests pose risk for toxic chemical

Just one failure after another. Expose your kids to poison, to test them for a disease that 99.99+ percent will have mild or no symptoms and rarely transmit to others if exposed.

peace to you

 

[Baptist Believer]

Our homes are full of toxic chemicals. Parents of children should not leave toxic chemicals (cleaning products, solvents, adhesives, fuels, etc.) where children can get to them.

Those of us who have actually used COVID-19 tests know that one does not have to touch the reagent chemicals at all. There is no significant risk of exposure unless the test kit is used recklessly and completely contrary to instructions.

You might as well start a thread about Tide Pods being dangerous to children and lamenting the widespread use of laundry detergent.

 

[canadyjd]

Our homes are full of toxic chemicals. Parents of children should not leave toxic chemicals (cleaning products, solvents, adhesives, fuels, etc.) where children can get to them.

Those of us who have actually used COVID-19 tests know that one does not have to touch the reagent chemicals at all. There is no significant risk of exposure unless the test kit is used recklessly and completely contrary to instructions.

You might as well start a thread about Tide Pods being dangerous to children and lamenting the widespread use of laundry detergent.

And yet, doing laundry is necessary. Testing children who have no pre-existing conditions is not.

peace to you

 

[Baptist Believer]

And yet, doing laundry is necessary. Testing children who have no pre-existing conditions is not.

(1) If used properly, no one is exposed to the reagents.
(2) The brief article said nothing about children being tested. Few children live in homes without adults. Many adults need to be tested -- especially the ones who have symptoms of illness.
(3) I have used these tests on multiple occasions, so I have practical experience with them. It's clear that no one else who has commented on this thread knows anything about them.

 

[canadyjd]

(1) If used properly, no one is exposed to the reagents.
(2) The brief article said nothing about children being tested. Few children live in homes without adults. Many adults need to be tested -- especially the ones who have symptoms of illness.
(3) I have used these tests on multiple occasions, so I have practical experience with them. It's clear that no one else who has commented on this thread knows anything about them.

All valid points. But to be clear, the home tests are useless, just like most masks are useless. They are a product of irrational fear of this virus that has been hyped in the media where the average person believes it’s severity is far greater than it it. The only people who need this kind of early test results are those in the high risk categories

I had Covid in 2020, just after it started. I am high risk. The test, at that time was to swab the brain stem through the nose. Kidding, but only slightly. I literally blew blood out my nose for days.

Even though I am high risk, the symptoms were mild. I was amazed to be told to stay home, isolate and come to the hospital if I have trouble breathing.

Brother, that is the same advice to give to anyone that is sick with a cold, flu.

There is no reason for generally healthy people, especially younger people, to test themselves. There is no reason to expose children to toxins, even at small risk of exposure, when it simply has no real benefit.

peace to you

 

[Reformed1689]

All valid points. But to be clear, the home tests are useless, just like most masks are useless. They are a product of irrational fear of this virus that has been hyped in the media where the average person believes it’s severity is far greater than it it. The only people who need this kind of early test results are those in the high risk categories

I had Covid in 2020, just after it started. I am high risk. The test, at that time was to swab the brain stem through the nose. Kidding, but only slightly. I literally blew blood out my nose for days.

Even though I am high risk, the symptoms were mild. I was amazed to be told to stay home, isolate and come to the hospital if I have trouble breathing.

Brother, that is the same advice to give to anyone that is sick with a cold, flu.

There is no reason for generally healthy people, especially younger people, to test themselves. There is no reason to expose children to toxins, even at small risk of exposure, when it simply has no real benefit.

peace to you

You and I are generally of same mind on these topics, however, this time I disagree. Home tests are useful. Not everyone's symptoms are/were mild. Mine sure were not when I had it. Testing early at least lets you know if you should be cautious around who you go so you don't spread it to more vulnerable populations etc.

 

[Baptist Believer]

...the home tests are useless, just like most masks are useless.

Simply false. The home tests tell a user if they have COVID-19, which is an important thing to know if you care about other people. And masks are effective for slowing the transmission of the virus. I realize you don't agree, but reality does not care about our opinions.

...They are a product of irrational fear of this virus that has been hyped in the media where the average person believes it’s severity is far greater than it it. The only people who need this kind of early test results are those in the high risk categories...

Or those who love their neighbors and want to ensure that they do not unknowingly infect others. The tests help determine if malaise or a running nose is a symptom of allergies or the early stages of COVID. For those who are high risk, it can allow them to pursue treatment before things get serious.

...I had Covid in 2020, just after it started. I am high risk. The test, at that time was to swab the brain stem through the nose. Kidding, but only slightly. I literally blew blood out my nose for days.

I had one of the early tests in 2020 with the long swab. It was quite uncomfortable. The test determined that I was having a mild recurrence of mononucleosis, not COVID.

...Even though I am high risk, the symptoms were mild. I was amazed to be told to stay home, isolate and come to the hospital if I have trouble breathing.

I came down with COVID this past January after having to travel to Houston, a place where many refuse to wear masks. I likely caught it in a restaurant because the server was not wearing a mask, and I am at high risk. I am fully vaccinated, so I had some resistance. My wife felt bad for a couple of days, but never tested positive since her immune system was able to fight off the virus because of her vaccination. I was sick for three weeks before my body cleared the virus. The first week, I felt like death and had a fever between 102-104 degrees, along with body aches, cough, and blood in my urine. Fortunately, the last two weeks were not nearly as bad. There is no doubt that the vaccine saved my life.

...Brother, that is the same advice to give to anyone that is sick with a cold, flu.

That's standard virus guidance. But it is a logical fallacy to equate the treatment for a disease with the severity of a disease.

...There is no reason for generally healthy people, especially younger people, to test themselves.

Unless they love their neighbor.

...There is no reason to expose children to toxins, even at small risk of exposure, when it simply has no real benefit.

No one is exposing children to toxins.

 

[canadyjd]

Simply false. The home tests tell a user if they have COVID-19, which is an important thing to know if you care about other people. And masks are effective for slowing the transmission of the virus. I realize you don't agree, but reality does not care about our opinions.


Or those who love their neighbors and want to ensure that they do not unknowingly infect others. The tests help determine if malaise or a running nose is a symptom of allergies or the early stages of COVID. For those who are high risk, it can allow them to pursue treatment before things get serious.


I had one of the early tests in 2020 with the long swab. It was quite uncomfortable. The test determined that I was having a mild recurrence of mononucleosis, not COVID.


I came down with COVID this past January after having to travel to Houston, a place where many refuse to wear masks. I likely caught it in a restaurant because the server was not wearing a mask, and I am at high risk. I am fully vaccinated, so I had some resistance. My wife felt bad for a couple of days, but never tested positive since her immune system was able to fight off the virus because of her vaccination. I was sick for three weeks before my body cleared the virus. The first week, I felt like death and had a fever between 102-104 degrees, along with body aches, cough, and blood in my urine. Fortunately, the last two weeks were not nearly as bad. There is no doubt that the vaccine saved my life.


That's standard virus guidance. But it is a logical fallacy to equate the treatment for a disease with the severity of a disease.


Unless they love their neighbor.


No one is exposing children to toxins.

This whole notion that “if you love your neighbor you would endure whatever anti-science elitists tell you to endure has proven ineffective. And there is no end to the demands of this argument once you accept it.

The John Hopkins study showed all the lockdowns, mask mandates etc, did much harm with minuscule benefits.

The legacy of the political, non-scientific, response to this virus will be the generational damage done to our children.

peace to you

 

[Reformed1689]

And masks are effective for slowing the transmission of the virus. I realize you don't agree, but reality does not care about our opinions.

95% of the masks worn by people actually do not slow the transmission of the virus.

 

[canadyjd]

You and I are generally of same mind on these topics, however, this time I disagree. Home tests are useful. Not everyone's symptoms are/were mild. Mine sure were not when I had it. Testing early at least lets you know if you should be cautious around who you go so you don't spread it to more vulnerable populations etc.

I always appreciate your well reasoned input, even when we disagree.

I’ve worked with the public during Covid where people have come in hacking and coughing and sneezing and saying, “don’t worry, I’ve got the flu not Covid”. You really cannot stop stupid.

The whole idea of testing every three days, or every time your kid gets a runny nose is an over reaction, imo, based on a misconception of how dangerous this virus is.

By all means, for those in high risk groups, and the family members around them, take all precautions and don’t take unnecessary risks and test every day if you like.

But it is unreasonable to expect the 90%+ of people who do not have those risks to behave the same.

BTW, I recently saw where some countries in Africa have less than a 5% vaccination rate. Based on what we’ve been told about how lethal this virus is, you would expect mass graves in those countries as tens of millions die to Covid.

I haven’t seen any such reports, but everyone is focused on Ukraine, so who knows for sure?

peace to you

 

[JonC]

Our homes are full of toxic chemicals. Parents of children should not leave toxic chemicals (cleaning products, solvents, adhesives, fuels, etc.) where children can get to them.

Those of us who have actually used COVID-19 tests know that one does not have to touch the reagent chemicals at all. There is no significant risk of exposure unless the test kit is used recklessly and completely contrary to instructions.

You might as well start a thread about Tide Pods being dangerous to children and lamenting the widespread use of laundry detergent.

Yep. The solution can cause skin irritation if you accidentally get it on your skin (so if you do, you are supposed to wash it off). You are not to confuse the solution with eye drops or eat the stuff. Don't let children play with it.

I think as time goes on our society just gets dumber. Eat tide pods. Confuse covid test solution with eye drops. Let children lay with either.

 

[DaveXR650]

I think as time goes on our society just gets dumber.

Jon, I don't know where you come up with this stuff. I had the grand kids over just the other day and I told them "you better quit eatin' them covid tests. Don't make me get up from this chair".

 

[Reformed1689]

I always appreciate your well reasoned input, even when we disagree.

I’ve worked with the public during Covid where people have come in hacking and coughing and sneezing and saying, “don’t worry, I’ve got the flu not Covid”. You really cannot stop stupid.

The whole idea of testing every three days, or every time your kid gets a runny nose is an over reaction, imo, based on a misconception of how dangerous this virus is.

By all means, for those in high risk groups, and the family members around them, take all precautions and don’t take unnecessary risks and test every day if you like.

But it is unreasonable to expect the 90%+ of people who do not have those risks to behave the same.

BTW, I recently saw where some countries in Africa have less than a 5% vaccination rate. Based on what we’ve been told about how lethal this virus is, you would expect mass graves in those countries as tens of millions die to Covid.

I haven’t seen any such reports, but everyone is focused on Ukraine, so who knows for sure?

peace to you

Oh I am definitely not advocating testing every 3 days. I just think if you have a fever etc, you should test just like you do for flu/strep/etc.

 

[Benjamin]

Just when your hopes come to the point that you think the constant and boring flood of anti-vax rhetoric is coming to an end, there are things like this thread...

 

[Baptist Believer]

This whole notion that “if you love your neighbor you would endure whatever anti-science elitists tell you to endure has proven ineffective.

False.

And there is no end to the demands of this argument once you accept it.

False. That's the "slippery-slope" logical fallacy.

The John Hopkins study showed all the lockdowns, mask mandates etc, did much harm with minuscule benefits.

False. John Hopkins University had no such study.

The legacy of the political, non-scientific, response to this virus will be the generational damage done to our children.

The real damage to our present situation and legacy is the false COVID-19 narratives that are promoted in the right-wing media and among conspiracists.

 

[canadyjd]

Just when your hopes come to the point that you think the constant and boring flood of anti-vax rhetoric is coming to an end, there are things like this thread...

Who said anything about “anti-vax” in this thread?

peace to you

 

[canadyjd]

False.


False. That's the "slippery-slope" logical fallacy.


False. John Hopkins University had no such study.


The real damage to our present situation and legacy is the false COVID-19 narratives that are promoted in the right-wing media and among conspiracists.

Read much of the story you linked. Like all Covid nonsense, the author spends the first, very long portion of his story, ridiculing the authors and anyone who referenced their works, making fun of both with personal attacks and buffoonery.

When he finally acknowledges the results, he immediately pivots to continued personal attacks.

For a moment, I thought I was reading another attempt to destroy scientists that don’t agree with “global warming”.

Bottom line, your source is biased. The report will undergo peer review which, hopefully, won’t include people like that.

peace to you

 

[Revmitchell]

Who said anything about “anti-vax” in this thread?

peace to you

If they can place a label on you then they can make you a boogy man and an enemy.

 

[Benjamin]

Who said anything about “anti-vax” in this thread?

Its all of the same mindset and related the same wannabe political partisanship COVID ideologies and obsessions.