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Why Is Russian Spoken In Ukraine?

Earth Wind and Fire

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for who, Ukraine, Russia, or the USA?
USA. A break from the English should have been made complete. I would have preferred French as the National language since they helped us to break away from England. My Celtic brethren in Wales are teaching Welsh and indeed there many families who would rather speak that language vs English which is nothing more than an amalgamation of other language anyway. The more you can encourage a distinct language (in schools, in churches, at home with family etc) the more distinct you will be.

There are many reasons that my ancestors ran away from Britain … mostly to make a better life for themselves. Neither my Welsh family or my wife’s Scottish families consider English a credible culture to emulate. Another poster on BB (whose name I won’t mention) told us how bad Christianity has become in England (I would like to know more why this is happening). I suspect it’s part economic, part socialism… but mostly no Holy Ghost visitations. Sad state of affairs. Didn’t the years of Cromwell and WW2 with Churchill teach the English anything?!?
 
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Earth Wind and Fire

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Being a sovereign country takes years to establish… look at the history of the USA and look at the history of my beloved Poland for examples. Both of us fought for distinct cultures, for religious freedoms against tyranny. In Poland the factory workers and the farmers claimed solidarity and in Poland the church supported those endeavors.
Will the Ukrainian people unite as a one country consensus against Russia… I believe with Gods help anything is possible.
 

SavedByGrace

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USA. A break from the English should have been made complete. I would have preferred French as the National language since they helped us to break away from England. My Celtic brethren in Wales are teaching Welsh and indeed there many families who would rather speak that language vs English which is nothing more than an amalgamation of other language anyway. The more you can in courage a distinct language (in schools, in churches, at home with family etc) the more distinct you will be.

There are many reasons that my ancestors ran away from Britain … mostly to make a better life for themselves. Neither my Welsh family or my wife’s Scottish families consider English a credible culture to emulate. Another poster on BB (whose name I won’t mention) told us how bad Christianity has become in England (I would like to know more why this is happening). I suspect it’s part economic, part socialism… but mostly no Holy Ghost visitations. Sad state of affairs. Didn’t the years of Cromwell and WW2 with Churchill teach the English anything?!?

You speak of "Welsh" and "Scottish", where both countries are still under English rule, though "devolved" to some extent. And thousands of English over the centuries moved to these nations, as to Northern Ireland, and now are probably greatly English themselves!

Of course the spritual state in England is very said, as it is all over the world. the "Celts" are mainly pagan, and probably brought their false christianity to England!

You speak of the French as helping the US to break away from the English. What religion are they? The Puritans are the ones who gave the US true Biblical Christianity. Don't knock us for this
 

canadyjd

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Because many thousands or millions of Russians, or pro-Russians live in the Ukraine. And the Ukraine probably did once belong to Russia. Like the USA did to England, which is why you guys speak a kind of "English" :Wink
The USA never belonged to England. We speak “Amer’can”, not English.

peace to you
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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You speak of "Welsh" and "Scottish", where both countries are still under English rule, though "devolved" to some extent. And thousands of English over the centuries moved to these nations, as to Northern Ireland, and now are probably greatly English themselves!

Of course the spritual state in England is very said, as it is all over the world. the "Celts" are mainly pagan, and probably brought their false christianity to England!

You speak of the French as helping the US to break away from the English. What religion are they? The Puritans are the ones who gave the US true Biblical Christianity. Don't knock us for this
George Whitfield was largely responsible not the Puritans who like other non conformists to Anglicanism (otherwise known as English Catholicism) felt the urgent need to escape from England (even Cromwell was making plans to leave the country). It was both Whitfield and John Wesley who made great efforts to evangelize. Neither Puritans or Pilgrims made that effort. Baptists also contributed as well as others like the Friends/Quakers who were persecuted in England. I’d give Puritans high marks for Oliver Cromwell and his breaking up the English monarchy and Parliamentarian corruption but that only lasted 5 years. Now don’t tell me you are blaming the Celts for your Pagan problems! The Welsh were always church goers… I should say chapel because the Anglicans wouldn’t allow for anything but their assemblies to be called “church.” The Scots were mostly Presbyterian and the Irish mostly Catholics. Maybe you are referring to the Irish, since you are not specific. But here is what you should understand…. They all don’t like you. Sure you could purchase land, estates etc but that doesn’t bring acceptance and a warm bosomy feelings towards you since you will always remain usurpers … Sais and English is always the language of the landlords and dare I say it… the bastardized race. French at least is a romanized, brilliantly constructed language… one where English still uses many words.
 

Salty

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You speak of the French as helping the US to break away from the English. What religion are they? The Puritans are the ones who gave the US true Biblical Christianity. Don't knock us for this

Not really - they did try witches
Puritanism and Witchcraft – The Salem Witch Trials


Excessive amount of legalism
puritan often means "against pleasure".
Nevertheless, it preserved certain characteristics of medieval Catholicism, a formal liturgy, the Book of Common Prayer, traditional clerical vestments and episcopal polity.[18]

Some Puritans refused to bow on hearing the name of Jesus, to make the sign of the cross in baptism, use wedding rings
-- Which means many did !
Puritans agreed with the church's practice of infant baptism.
Certain holidays were outlawed when Puritans ... the celebration of Christmas, Easter and Whitsuntide.
Men, and a handful of women, who engaged in h0mosexwal behavior, were seen as especially sinful, with some executed.
the Puritans exhibited intolerance of other religious views,
And remember the Puritans kicked out Rev Roger Williams who then founded the first Baptist church in America.
 

Salty

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I did say WORLD empire

During its existence, the USSR was the largest country by area in the world. It included more than 8.6 million square miles (22.4 million square kilometers) and stretched 6,800 miles (10,900 kilometers) from the Baltic Sea in the west to the Pacific Ocean in the east.
What Countries Were in the USSR?

As we would say in the Army - "Close enough for Govt work"!
 

Squire Robertsson

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During its existence, the USSR was the largest country by area in the world. It included more than 8.6 million square miles (22.4 million square kilometers) and stretched 6,800 miles (10,900 kilometers) from the Baltic Sea in the west to the Pacific Ocean in the east.
Also at its height, Imperial Russia stretched down from Alaska to Ft. Ross in Alta California del Norte. Unlike the French and British maritime empires, the Russian was land-based.
 

SavedByGrace

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Earth Wind and Fire

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Not really - they did try witches
Puritanism and Witchcraft – The Salem Witch Trials


Excessive amount of legalism
puritan often means "against pleasure".
Nevertheless, it preserved certain characteristics of medieval Catholicism, a formal liturgy, the Book of Common Prayer, traditional clerical vestments and episcopal polity.[18]

Some Puritans refused to bow on hearing the name of Jesus, to make the sign of the cross in baptism, use wedding rings
-- Which means many did !
Puritans agreed with the church's practice of infant baptism.
Certain holidays were outlawed when Puritans ... the celebration of Christmas, Easter and Whitsuntide.
Men, and a handful of women, who engaged in h0mosexwal behavior, were seen as especially sinful, with some executed.
the Puritans exhibited intolerance of other religious views,
And remember the Puritans kicked out Rev Roger Williams who then founded the first Baptist church in America.
A Welshman LOL
 
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