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Student @ Christian College expelled for being a victim
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Silverhair
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Curious, did the man get the boot also?
CalTech
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Greetings,
That is very sad and "if" true, very ungodly for the "College" to not carry out proper Biblical measure's in seeking out the truth, in order to bring forth proper "discipline" measures against the "perpetrator". Why do such "Christian Ministries" or College's feel they are above what God's word commands them to do?
When there is disobedience to the Foundation laid out by the Lord and His Apostle's, chaos ensues, an every evil work under the sun is manifested.
Good point to bring up for discussion.....
Thank you.
The Lord Bless you....
In His Love.....
NO he did not
Silverhair
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So how did this premarital sex happen. Sounds like another case of "a woman caught in adultery" Joh 8:3
The female stated the male was invited to her apt - and then he forced himself on her.
It was the college which said it was (apparently consensual) premarital sex.
Shortly after - the female contacted the police - when the college would do nothing.
Silverhair
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Always am amazed how the man is never responsible, just those temptress women.
Reformed1689
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Isn't that a bit odd in of itself? If a crime was committed, would you contact the police first?
As a retired investigator who investigated many rapes, most of the "rapes" that got reported several days later were not rapes. They were Daddy, Momma, Husband, etc etc. Found out. It's hard to prove a rape when you allow enough time for the evidence to disappear.
That would make the most sense.
canadyjd
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I read about this somewhere else. I think the college took the position that the assault took place off campus and was, therefore, not subject to their over site.
After she filed complaints with federal agencies, they initiated the investigation into violation of standards.
I can’t remember exactly, but I thought she voluntarily left instead of facing the accusation she violated standards.
I don’t think the report said anything about what happened to the man, but since it was a discipline matter, the school may not be able to disclose what action they took toward him for privacy reasons.
I don’t think the school can comment on it. All the info is coming from her.
peace to you
5 point Gillinist
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In the age of #MeToo, I have become incredibly skeptical of allegations of rape, especially when not reported to Law Enforcement right away. Sadly being a victim is popular in society today and people will go out of their way to become one, even if it means making another party an actual victim.
Maybe if making a false allegation against someone carried the same criminal charges that the accused would receive there would be fewer false rape allegations.
Maybe if making a false allegation against someone carried the same criminal charges that the accused would receive there would be fewer false rape allegations.
canadyjd
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Well, I tend to agree she should have gone to law enforcement immediately, but I’m not a woman so I really can’t understand her thinking.
It is already illegal to make false reports to police in most areas, I think. I wouldn’t want to make the penalty the same, however. It could have a “chilling” effect on people reporting sexual assaults.
peace to you
5 point Gillinist
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Well if pushed to consistency then we shouldn't punish people who make a false report because it might have a chilling effect on people reporting sexual assaults. You are potentially ruining someone's life by sending them to jail - or making them a sex offender or both. If you are falsely making a claim then you should suffer the same consequences. Deuteronomy 19 prescribes the same penalty. But if the results are inconclusive then they both go free.
Reporting it to campus admin, rather than to the police sheds an incredible amount of doubt upon her story. I would also say that the campus must have had some evidence to the contrary to discipline her as they did - I don't think reading a paragraph on Wikipedia is the best source to cite for the story either.
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5 point Gillinist
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I followed up on a news article - their discipline was for a different reason entirely
"Instead, she said in a federal complaint filed with the U.S. Department of Education on Wednesday, administrators at Visible, a Christian college in Memphis, Tennessee, accused her of breaking school rules against premarital sex with a different student, an ex-boyfriend. She denied having sex with him but said the school threatened to expel her unless she signed a confession and finished the school year remotely."
She told her Christian college she was raped. Then she was banned from campus.
"Visible Music College administrators also told her they would not remove the accused student from her classes because police didn’t arrest him, nor would they conduct a Title IX investigation, because the alleged assault happened off campus. And administrators attempted to bar Louk from telling anyone else at the school that she had been raped, she said."
"On Nov. 2, 2021, a male classmate, who is not named in the complaint, came over to her apartment to play board games. It was the first time they’d spent time alone together, and that night he sexually assaulted her, the complaint states."
"Louk filed a sexual assault report with Memphis police on Nov. 4, law enforcement records show. The following week, an officer called Louk to tell her that they did not have enough evidence to make an arrest, she said. The Memphis Police Department did not respond to a request for comment."
"On Nov. 15, a Visible Music College administrator told Louk and her parents that because police declined to charge the accused student, “there’s really nothing we can do at this point, so he will be attending classes like normal,” according to an audio recording of the meeting shared by Simon. Another administrator said if Louk disagreed, she should “take it up with the Memphis Police Department.”
This is a pretty flimsy story. She invited the individual to her apartment, there were no other witnesses (an apartment isn't exactly soundproof either), and she didn't report it to the police until a later date, the police had no evidence to arrest him on, the school had no jurisdiction over the matter, or any reason to discipline him, etc. This wouldn't stand up in court, this sounds more like regret, or a lack of personal responsibility, and likely a case of deflection due to the fact that it sounds like she was going to face expulsion for violating the contract that she signed with the school, which led her to make herself a victim and now target the school with a nuisance suit for holding her accountable for her violation.
The college should be commended for not acting out of pressure/emotion and is instead standing by someone who has not been charged or arrested, and as far as we know at this point is innocent.
It would have been better to not have given the thread the title that you did due to her expulsion being for a different matter.
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