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Greenwood Park Mall Shooting
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Well regulated Militia...right to keep arms.
Regulated...militia...right to keep arms.
The people in the militia, formed by each State, have the right to keep and bear arms.
The 2nd Amendment was never intended, by the founding fathers, to give license to a bunch of anarchists who were all about individualism and paranoia. George Washington crushed those folk early in the Republic. He would make the same decision against the radical right today.
You are ignorant of what the militia was and what regulated meant.
Militia in all states was defined basically as all males of military service age. "Regulated" meant armed with the same armament a REGULAR soldier in the standing army was armed with.
That is just ignorance.
From the moment 2A was ratified, all citizens were allowed to have all weapons. Look at the actions of the founders if you want to understand their words.
Not ignorant. You just want it to mean something different so you can maintain your radical individualism.
Today, we can have State armories and weekend warriors practicing to ensure States rights as the founders intended.
Reynolds, all you need is a hog hunting gun and you'd be fine. No need for a bunker full of weapons and ammo
They had state armories then as well. As I said, Ignorance.
That's what the Regulars were after at Lexington and Concord. The towns' armories.
The right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed . Funny how you leave out of your bizarre interpretation THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE. you are an infringer of Rights. Who's Rights? The Rights of the People. That is the bottom line. You are not one of the good guys. You rather try to inslave others by convincing them they do not have Rights. Rights spelled out in the Constitution.
I find it rather astonishing that they are saying the hero shot from 40 yards away. AND, hit 8 out of 10 shots!
Thinking about that, I counted down my fence posts today which are spaced 10 feet apart for 120 feet (...40 yards
) to get a look at that distance and that was some great shooting he did!It was an honorable achievement for that young man to be prepared, step up and take control to stop such a horrible event. Such a blessing that he was there.
The right of the people, in the well regulated militia. Seems you forget the purpose of the 2nd Amendment is to have a standing army ready for service to protect against foreign invasion and it was to be "well regulated." That is exactly what the States wanted as a shield against Britain and France. It is not intended as a opportunity for anarchical individualists to hoard and stockpile ammunitions in their paranoia.
Regulated meant Armed as a regular soldier in the standing army. Even a Liberal CNN history contributor concede to that fact recently.
He said that "nuance of language is no longer understood.".
Study history and stop looking to leftist hacks for your information.
The key is..."government army." If we wish to give our military personnel their weapons to reside at their house with them, then so he it. But, you aren't one of them.
Reynold's you just want the right to anarchy with your guns. That is not the intention of the founding fathers or the 2nd Amendment. SCOTUS needs to review this and reset the meaning of the 2nd Amendment to end the anarchical and radical para-military groups that are within the United States. We have neo-nazi's, extremist Muslims, extremist cults (like Waco) and Anarchist groups all playing weekend warrior on their compounds. It's sad to see such paranoia in people. God never calls Christians to such behavior
This interpretation that only state-organized militia as understood today, with the weapons stored in armories when not actively in use, would make the phrase "...KEEP and bear arms..." (my caps) of no effect. It would appear to restrict any firearms to those in the National Guard or similar state-controlled military, such that all others have zero right to own firearms, and that Congress could constitutionally pass laws requiring all non-militia to surrender all firearms. No one here has suggested anything like that, though the far left certainly has.
timtofly
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Probably should take away all private property as well, since law abiding citizens can no longer protect their private property.
Then allow the government to move you wherever they please and make you work wherever they deem necessary.
Those evil people with free will sure mess up Adam Smiths view of a bountiful economy. Oh wait, we don't want people to mess up the economy either, so will will take that away as well.
One mind one world. This community is just one evil mindset of Satan. No free will to live one's conscience under the submission to the Holy Spirit. We give that freedom away to the sin nature will of the government run by humans.
God gave all the ability to separate one's self from a single mindset of sin and death.
Private property is not a tool designed only to kill.
I never said anyone has suggested it. I am saying the 2nd Amendment is not intended to appease anarchists and extreme individualists so they can stockpile ammunitions out of fear and paranoia. Keep your hunting gun, with single shot, in your locked gun cabinet and go hunting in hunting season.
Personally, I don't own a single shot firearm other than the Hawken repro muzzleloader and my very old Mossberg .22 if I were to toss the clip. Thus the 58-year-old Remington model 76 pump from my dad would have to go as it holds 5 cartridges, the 6.5/55 Swedish Mauser with which I took my first deer in 1968 also, and the Ithaca model 37 featherweight from before 1950 holding 3 shells (because it's plugged as the law says) would be gone as well. IIRC, that would be more severe than the Aussie law, which I think allows bolt-action repeaters. A single-shot only law would outlaw over 95% of the nation's hunting rifles, and I don't think that would be your goal.
The militia is all able bodied men. According to COTUS, the citizens are by defacto part of the army. Quit distorting history to fit your Communist world view.
Splain something to me. If the 2a was for the army, why did Govt need to give the army the right to keep and bear arms? That line of logic is on its face absurd.
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From this comment I assume you are referring to the Western Pennsylvania Whiskey Rebellion. In doing so, did you at least look up the event on Wikipedia Whiskey Rebellion - Wikipedia According to the wiki article, the Rebellion was not a matter of individualism or paranoia. It was over how taxation was to be implemented in the new republic.
You are so full of it. The Army of the United States is not the Militia. The Army is its own entity. The Army came after and its modern inception is well after the US Constitution. We the people, and the Modern Army are different things. Again and again we see YOUR paranoia showing through with bizarre, no ones interpretation. I have the Right of free speach, the Army doesnt. I have the right to have all kinds of firearms in my house. Someone in the army must have his commander's permission to keep a personal weapon in his/her footlocker. The Army tries to mimick the Constitution, but Soldiers don't have the same rights. The modern military is very different entity it came well after the US Constitution. The modern military has nothing to do with the Second Amendment. You are a slave giving away others right which you have no right to do.