I think I am going to take a break here. Those who are determined to not see what is plainly obvious aren't worth wasting time on. The propaganda from Kiev and Washington just blinds them.
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Ukraine shelling nuclear plant, NY Times admits
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I think I am going to take a break here. Those who are determined to not see what is plainly obvious aren't worth wasting time on. The propaganda from Kiev and Washington just blinds them.
Many sites mention this kill list. And several of those listed have since been murdered.
Hundreds Of Children Included In Ukrainian Kill-List
Yet, you refuse to accept the propaganda from Russia that you are consuming.
atpollard
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When Hamas sets up a rocket launcher in the courtyard of a school to attack houses in Israel and Israel attacks the rocket launcher to stop the attacks … who is responsible for the attack on the school?
(just curious of your opinion with this parallel case.)
Great, so the occupier and aggressor (Russia) is responsible for the bombing of the nuclear power plant.
Yet, my guess is you will never blame mother russia for anything no matter how wicked she has been.
Note that over the weekend mass graves were discovered where Russian soldiers committed crimes against humanity.
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atpollard
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atpollard
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Actually, the NYT article says nothing of the sort. Here is the actual NYT quote:
“Eventually, Ukrainian officials believe their long-term success requires progress on the original goals in the discarded strategy, including recapturing the nuclear power plant in Zaporizhzhia, cutting off Russian forces in Mariupol and pushing Russian forces in Kherson back across the Dnipro River, American officials said.”
That’s it. Ukrainian long term strategy planned on recapturing the power plant (duh) … so that somehow translates to “US Finally Admits Ukraine Bombs Nuclear Power Plant”. The article lies about what the NYT article says. The headline further misleads.
What does the Daily Sun have to report?
We could order the Russians to stop invading as well, but the Russians goal is not peace.
See how that works?
Note that all the aggression has been from Russia, starting with their earlier annexation of Ukrainian territory.
We are not supplying weapons and aid packaging to Russia, but Ukraine. We even pay corrupt ukrainian generals the salary of cannon foder dead Ukrainian soldiers. We should be helping Russia to get rid of the nazis. We should not desire to break Russia up so western billionairs may plunder their wealth. We should have never forced Ukraine to try to join Nato. We promised the Russian we would do no such thing and have gone back on our word. We are helping a ukraine that mistreats ethnic Russians, ethnic hungarians, and ethnic Poles, who pass discriminatory laws against them.
Does shutting down nuclear power in Ukraine benefit Ukraine or Russia?
Would an invading force attack domestic power plants or would domestic forces attack their own power plants?
When you see stories about shelling very near power plants, is the likely outcome to operate or shutdown the power plant.
Would an invading force attack domestic power plants or would domestic forces attack their own power plants?
When you see stories about shelling very near power plants, is the likely outcome to operate or shutdown the power plant.
Russia is in control of the Nuclear facility. It is operated by Ukrainians who's plant it was before being captured. It provides power to a lot of Ukrainians. Thats why Russia alows the Ukrainian plant people to operate it. Ukraine shells the facility on occasion to harras the Russians. Still, a bad hit on the cooling facility could cause another Chernobyl.
You realize that the entire world is supplying Ukraine. Even neutral countries like Finland and Sweden are supplying Ukraine. Or did you forget?
No, we, the American tax payers always foot the bill. Ukrainian weapons (as well as black market weapons) is payed for by the American citizen. Certainly a drain on our economy. We have already sent a 50 billion worth in one deal alone. Unfortunately that is not all we have sent additional billions as well. US weapons manufacturers are making a killing for sure.
Nato countries are our cronies. They do what we tell them to do.
Gee, I thought they were using the facility as a shield, so they would not be targeted, sort of like hiding in schools and civilians.
LOL, neither Finland nor Sweden even considered NATO until Russian aggression began. Finland knows all too well about the Russian bear that has harassed and brutalized them for centuries. You, sir, are drinking a conspiracy kool-aid that is mythical on many levels and you refuse to accept that your position is a conspiracy myth.
Didn't Finland join join the Nazis in ww2 against Russia? Of course they did. Didn't they make Russia suffer greatly? Certainly you know ? What did Finland help Germany do to St. Petersburg/Leningrad? How many after years of siege died by starvation of artillery blasts? Somewhere around half a million?