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Lower Cost 2023 BEV's

Van

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1. Chevy Bolt EUV - starting at about $27,000 with a range of about 250 miles

2. Hyundai Kona Electric - starting at about $33, 600 with a range of about 260 miles.

3. Kia Niro EV - starting at about $39,500 with a range of about 250 miles

4. Volkswagen ID4 Base RWD - starting at about $40,000 with a range of about 210 miles

5. Hyundai Ioniq 5 - starting at about $42,000 with a range of about 220 miles

6. Nissan Ariya Engage FWD - starting at about $44,000 with a range of about 270 miles.

7. Hyundai Ioniq 6 Sedan - starting at about $44,000 with a range of about 300 miles.
 

Van

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Did anyone see the Premature Electrification ad during the Superbowl. Ram trucks is finally coming out with a EV pickup in 2024, which means they are late to the game.

So they are pointing to the flaws of the first EV's made by companies wanting to continue selling fossil fueled vehicles as if those flaws exist in the current crop of EV's that cost little more than a fossil fueled vehicle and have at least a 200 mile range.
 

canadyjd

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With or without taxpayer subsidies?

1999 Toyota Camry: Cost $500: Range 500 miles. Fill up: 3-5 minutes: No fear of battery explosions that releases tons of toxins and heavy metals into the air and water.

Don’t care about “carbon footprint” because global climate change is a hoax driven by Marxists and communists attempting to destroy the USA.

For the sake of THE CHILDREN we must end all electric vehicles that kill thousands of people, including children, every year through toxic pollution.

peace to you
 

Van

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With or without taxpayer subsidies?

1999 Toyota Camry: Cost $500: Range 500 miles. Fill up: 3-5 minutes: No fear of battery explosions that releases tons of toxins and heavy metals into the air and water.

Don’t care about “carbon footprint” because global climate change is a hoax driven by Marxists and communists attempting to destroy the USA.

For the sake of THE CHILDREN we must end all electric vehicles that kill thousands of people, including children, every year through toxic pollution.

peace to you
Yet another post of false claims from the enemy of truth. So they are pointing to the flaws of the first EV's made by companies wanting to continue selling fossil fueled vehicles as if those flaws exist in the current crop of EV's that cost little more than a fossil fueled vehicle and have at least a 200 mile range. The average distance driven per day is about 40 miles. Ever wonder why those signs at gas stations warn that the fumes could cause cancer, or why do they say turn off your engine and put out anything that is burning? No the deaths caused by air pollution are not the result of BEV battery fires, but a significant fraction is from the exhaust of fossil fueled vehicles.
 

canadyjd

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Yet another post of false claims from the enemy of truth. So they are pointing to the flaws of the first EV's made by companies wanting to continue selling fossil fueled vehicles as if those flaws exist in the current crop of EV's that cost little more than a fossil fueled vehicle and have at least a 200 mile range. The average distance driven per day is about 40 miles. Ever wonder why those signs at gas stations warn that the fumes could cause cancer, or why do they say turn off your engine and put out anything that is burning? No the deaths caused by air pollution are not the result of BEV battery fires, but a significant fraction is from the exhaust of fossil fueled vehicles.
For the sake of the CHILDREN Van, please reject the propaganda of the Electric Battery car death industry.

Thousands of children die every year in slave labor in Africa digging the tons of heavy metals and toxins needed to produce one electric car.

Every person driving an electric car is pro child slavery, pro child death in these mines just so they can claim to care about the environment.

Care about the CHILDREN instead Van, care about the children.

peace to you
 

Van

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For the sake of the CHILDREN Van, please reject the propaganda of the Electric Battery car death industry.

Thousands of children die every year in slave labor in Africa digging the tons of heavy metals and toxins needed to produce one electric car.

Every person driving an electric car is pro child slavery, pro child death in these mines just so they can claim to care about the environment.

Care about the CHILDREN instead Van, care about the children.

peace to you
Here is your sign, enemy of truth.

What heavy metals are in EV's using LFP batteries? Zero.
Where do the raw materials for LFP batteries come from? North and South America.
Enemies of truth do not care about others, but those who follow the commands of God do.
 

JonC

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1. Chevy Bolt EUV - starting at about $27,000 with a range of about 250 miles

2. Hyundai Kona Electric - starting at about $33, 600 with a range of about 260 miles.

3. Kia Niro EV - starting at about $39,500 with a range of about 250 miles

4. Volkswagen ID4 Base RWD - starting at about $40,000 with a range of about 210 miles

5. Hyundai Ioniq 5 - starting at about $42,000 with a range of about 220 miles

6. Nissan Ariya Engage FWD - starting at about $44,000 with a range of about 270 miles.

7. Hyundai Ioniq 6 Sedan - starting at about $44,000 with a range of about 300 miles.
Do you know the estimated longevity of the batteries?
 

canadyjd

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Do you know the estimated longevity of the batteries?
I’ve seen reports it actually depends on the climate. In warmer climates (California for example) they last about five years. They can last over ten years.

The batteries cannot be recycled, according to research I’ve done, and contain a lot of heavy metals and toxins that must be stored in a secure location.

Like every battery ever made, they will eventually rupture and spill their toxic contents.

peace to you
 

Van

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Do you know the estimated longevity of the batteries?
Not specifically of those batteries (in the listed vehicles).

However based on past performance of the Tesla sedan (about 250,000 cars sold before 2016) they are not worn out in less than 10 years.
 

JonC

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Not specifically of those batteries (in the listed vehicles).

However based on past performance of the Tesla sedan (about 250,000 cars sold before 2016) they are not worn out in less than 10 years.
Thanks. I was curious.
 
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