The Case Against Electric Vehicles

[KenH]

"Last August, California Gov. Gavin Newsom proposed to take away consumers’ choices when he rolled out his plan to eliminate the sale of new gas vehicles by 2035. The Environmental Protection Agency has said California can move forward. Other states can “opt in,” and it’s a hot topic in our region. Pennsylvania has joined some of California’s ideas in the past, and now Delaware Gov. John Carney and New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy say they also want to ban the sale of internal combustion engine vehicles.

These plans will cost consumers more, endanger our environment, economy, and national security, and take away options for consumers to choose the vehicle that best suits their needs.
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Pennsylvania, Delaware, and New Jersey should not join California. Last month, the political polling and survey company Ragnar Research conducted a survey showing that a resounding 73% of Delaware voters opposed a statewide ban on gas-powered vehicles by 2035.

Supermajorities in Delaware understand that buying a car is highly personal and the second most important financial decision we make. Bureaucrats in distant capitals do not know your situation, and they should not dictate your choices.
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Delaware’s and New Jersey’s internal combustion engine vehicles ban will hurt consumers, farmers, workers, and our national security. It’s time to say no to California’s car ban—in Harrisburg, Dover, Trenton, Washington, D.C., and across the country."

- rest at The Case Against Electric Vehicles | The Heritage Foundation

 

[Van]

"These plans will cost consumers more, endanger our environment, economy, and national security, and take away options for consumers to choose the vehicle that best suits their needs."

Note that the case is made against "mandating" EV's by the godless left, rather than EV's themselves. Bait and switch tactics are used by those adverse to truth.

 

[KenH]

Note that the case is made against "mandating" EV's

@Van do you support mandating the end of gas-powered vehicles?

 

[Van]

@Van do you support mandating the end of gas-powered vehicles?

"These plans will cost consumers more, endanger our environment, economy, and national security, and take away options for consumers to choose the vehicle that best suits their needs."

Note that the case is made against "mandating" EV's by the godless left, rather than EV's themselves. Bait and switch tactics are used by those adverse to truth.​

Are you claiming I am part of the "godless left?"

 

[Van]

What is the case against EV's?
1) They will help create American independence from foreign oil.
2) They will lower transportation costs.
3) They will lower air pollution in the LA basin.
4) People who drive them are also for "motherhood and apple pie."

 

[KenH]

Are you claiming I am part of the "godless left?"

No, but you sure are sounding Green with your questioning of the fossil fuel industry.

 

[Van]

No, but you sure are sounding Green with your questioning of the fossil fuel industry.

People who jump to wrong conclusions are impossible to avoid when fictions are never challenged. I am a conservative, I want to sustain the Christian culture of America's past. I oppose air pollution.

 

[KenH]

I oppose air pollution.

I am, too. I am glad that air pollution from internal combustion vehicles has been DRASTICALLY reduced over the past 50 years. I have read that it has been reduced by 99%.

 

[Van]

What is the case against EV's?
1) They will help create American independence from foreign oil.
2) They will lower transportation costs.
3) They will lower air pollution in the LA basin.
4) People who drive them are also for "motherhood and apple pie."

 

[KenH]

4) People who drive them are also for "motherhood and apple pie."

Considering that it is the well off who are the vast majority of folks driving electric vehicles(and they are heavily subsidized by the American taxpayers), I will stand up for those who don't have the resources to buy expensive electric vehicles, but who are still in favor of women giving birth and apple pie.

 

[JonC]

I remember when they got rid of leaded gasoline. It was a pain (I had to buy additives to add each time I filled the tank).

 

[Revmitchell]

What is the case against EV's?
1) They will help create American independence from foreign oil.

Nope

2) They will lower transportation costs.

Nope

3) They will lower air pollution in the LA basin.

Nope

4) People who drive them are also for "motherhood and apple pie."

nope

 

[Piper]

Californication has already run into problems providing enough electricity for them. And you generally have to burn coal to generate electricity.

What a conundrum.

 

[Van]

Considering that it is the well off who are the vast majority of folks driving electric vehicles(and they are heavily subsidized by the American taxpayers), I will stand up for those who don't have the resources to buy expensive electric vehicles, but who are still in favor of women giving birth and apple pie.

Do you not realize you are subscribing to the "class warfare" propaganda of the godless left?

 

[Van]

Nope
Nope
Nope
nope

Yet another "taint so" nothing burger:
What is the case against EV's?
1) They will help create American independence from foreign oil.
2) They will lower transportation costs.
3) They will lower air pollution in the LA basin.
4) People who drive them are also for "motherhood and apple pie."

 

[Revmitchell]

Yet another "taint so" nothing burger:
What is the case against EV's?
1) They will help create American independence from foreign oil.
2) They will lower transportation costs.
3) They will lower air pollution in the LA basin.
4) People who drive them are also for "motherhood and apple pie."

you post a list of claims which is a nothin burget

 

[KenH]

Do you not realize you are subscribing to the "class warfare" propaganda of the godless left?

What I wrote, I wrote.

 

[Van]

you post a list of claims which is a nothin burget

Yet another "taint so" nothing burger:
What is the case against EV's?
1) They will help create American independence from foreign oil.
2) They will lower transportation costs.
3) They will lower air pollution in the LA basin.
4) People who drive them are also for "motherhood and apple pie."

 

[Van]

What I wrote, I wrote.

Here is what was written:

Considering that it is the well off who are the vast majority of folks driving electric vehicles(and they are heavily subsidized by the American taxpayers), I will stand up for those who don't have the resources to buy expensive electric vehicles, but who are still in favor of women giving birth and apple pie.​

And what I said:

Do you not realize you are subscribing to the "class warfare" propaganda of the godless left?​

 

[KenH]

And what I said: Do you not realize you are subscribing to the "class warfare" propaganda of the godless left?

What I wrote, I wrote.