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I did not elect the Democrats. There is no penalty for lying repeatedly as the media does not hold the elected "servants" accountable for telling the voters the truth.
Look at VW vehicle sales? They are known liars, i.e. clean diesel fraud, but people still do business with them.
People vote for Mr Adam Schiff.
Anyone who believes these "the Russian's are winning" stories needs to remember the first causality of war is truth.
canadyjd
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I found him. Retired US Col. I’d like to know where he gets his info and who pays him.
He claims……
1. Ukraine has lost 400,000 killed.
2. Ukraine used the Minsk agreement to build up its forces to invade Russia.
3.. Russia had no choice to invade Ukraine because the government was persecuting Russian citizens in Ukraine
I have to say, if he isn’t a Russian propagandist, he has missed his calling.
peace to you
He claims……
1. Ukraine has lost 400,000 killed.
2. Ukraine used the Minsk agreement to build up its forces to invade Russia.
3.. Russia had no choice to invade Ukraine because the government was persecuting Russian citizens in Ukraine
I have to say, if he isn’t a Russian propagandist, he has missed his calling.
peace to you
I'm sure the US would not lie about anything relative to Ukraine.
Nuland-Pyatt Tape Removed From YouTube After 8 Years (consortiumnews.com)
Be sure to read the transcript
IMHO the US started this war back in 2014
Nuland-Pyatt Tape Removed From YouTube After 8 Years (consortiumnews.com)
Be sure to read the transcript
IMHO the US started this war back in 2014
canadyjd
Well-Known Member
Antidotal stories don’t really give the whole picture. That’s why I want to know where he gets his info.
To be certain, both sides downplay their losses and the ability of the enemy while exaggerating their own.
Facts, Russia wanted Kiev and failed to take it, and withdrew to the East.
Fact, Russia is seeking help from out side groups, mercenaries, and other governments including China and North Korea.
If Russian forces were overpowering Ukrainian forces, they wouldn’t need others to fight for them.
Peace to you
You have no real sources of information. The Russians withdrew from the capitol and had an agreement with the zelensky goverment. Nato through the UK boris ? Meaning the US told zelensky to not honor the agreement but we would back him fully. The Russians only went in with 200,000 troops in their special military operation. Everyone knows you need 3 to 4 times the defender which Ukraine had 700,000-800,000 man Army. So the Russians goal was/is not to take Ukraine. But to enforce the Mensk agreements. All you need to do is look at a military map of eastern Ukraine, where the Russians have their triple line of defense. The Ukrainians offense tries to pierce these lines but haven't made it to the first one. The Ukrainians have lost three armies this way. The Russians have a 10 to 1 advantage in artillery. The Russians have an air force. Ukraine cannot use their aircraft. They are shot down whenever the fly. These are the conditions the Ukrainians are up against. Funny, but we would never send United States forces to fight under these conditions. But we do send Ukrainians. On youtube look at the battle lines. Both pro Ukrainian and pro Russian will have the same lines.
canadyjd
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There is a surrender app on phones. The Ukrainians can go to a pre determined line where there is no fighting and surrender, where they are given food and medical treatment.
canadyjd
Well-Known Member
Everything adds up to the truth. It is our News media that is lying to us. We are the warmongers. We have started every war since ww2. Vietnam, gulf of tonkin. Gulf war 1 was started by sadam, but the kuwaitíes were slant drilling their oil wells with our blessing to keep prices low and Iraq asked us both to stop they needed to pay off their war debt from their war with Iran. Iraq 2 was definitely our fault, all of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction had been destroyed by U N inspectors. Afghanistan. Libya. Syria. Ukraine. We have killed a lot of women and children during these wars.
Anecdotal testimony can be found on both sides of the issue.
Ask yourselves why the War was not "won" by Russia months ago? Answer, the Ukraine defense was better than Russia expected.
Yes, the progress by Ukraine has been slow, but the Biden Administration has slow-walked delivery of the needed weapons.
Much of Russia's war making assets have been destroyed.