Ben1445
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Wouldn’t that mean she would take a stand against women pastors?
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The Mohler Amendment to the SBC Constitution
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Exactly!
jakethebaptist
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It passed the first vote overwhelmingly. Shouldn't be any problems passing the 2nd vote and getting into the SBC Consitution
Truth and Unity Amendment receives initial two-thirds approval | Baptist Press
Truth and Unity Amendment receives initial two-thirds approval | Baptist Press
At the same time he was pushing this anti-women-pastors amendment on us, Albert Mohler has his seminary sponsoring an online resource Called to Ministry that says Discipleship Pastors can be "he or she", "persons", etc.
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Yes, a sad day for the Southern Baptist Convention.
It's not clear to me what a 'discipleship pastor' is, but it's plainly not the same as a full-on pastor.
The women mentioned in Romans 16 did more than serve coffee. Churches need to be involving women in ministry, just not as pastors and/or preachers.
The fellowship to which my church is affiliated has a policy on this: Women in Ministry Ethos Statement - FIEC
Armchair Apologist
Active Member
I'm sure there are many faithful and wonderful ladies out there who have likely forgotten more theology than I will ever know!
You hardly hear from them though for this very reason! Perhaps a good number of them have been married to faithful Baptist pastors and have quietly kept them straight on their theology throughout the years?
Ascetic X
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Why is it a sad day? Have you ever been pastored by a woman?
A Lutheran church I was attending (switching back and forth from it and a Baptist church), the male pastor retired, and they installed a female interim pastor. I will not attend this church again.
A Baptist church that I was considering attending, where I got married to my first wife, has a female associate pastor who is in a lesbian relationship.
A Methodist church that I attended as a child now has a female pastor. I watched some videos of her sermons. Atrocious. No gospel. No Bible. Just Christian philosophical platitudes and personal anecdotes.
Woke ideology is destroying the churches.
Ben1445
Well-Known Member
Mothers.
Mikey
Active Member
Why are you against the amendment?
[1Ti 2:11-12 KJV] 11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
If these instructions are defied, don't expect God's blessing!
If these instructions are defied, don't expect God's blessing!
Both. Can not hold an ordained position.
canadyjd
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Women are biblically instructed to teach other women. They are “ministers” in the sense they have a ministry within the church. WMU is a women’s ministry within the church.
Every person within the church should have a “ministry”, that is a mission for the cause of Christ in the world.
I have heard it stated, and tend to agree, that if women didn’t work in the church, very little work would get done.
The fact overwhelming majority of men, in my experience at least, are quite happy letting the women do most of the work as long as they don’t “allow” them to be called “ministers”.
IMO, the only position within the church not open to women is the elder council. The pastor is part of the elder council.
Peace to you
The trouble with feminists is that they call everything that isn't feminism abuse.That’s what you call adultery, fornication, child sex abuse, and rape? Rough around the edges?
Southern Baptists Abandon Abuse Database - Christianity Today
The Executive Committee’s major focus is now recouping $3 million in legal fees related to the crisis.www.christianitytoday.com
canadyjd
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Please. Adultery and fornication isn't abuse. Child sex abuse and rape aren't only abuse, they're crimes. If accusers aren't taking it to law, then it's not a "credible accusation."
And I don't buy the "hypnotized by power" or "shocked into submission" silliness, not in the IFB churches, and especially not in the SBC. Not with grown individuals. With children...actual children...that's a different thing.
But what Feminists call "abuse" is every slightest absence of the most perfect grace and rectitude shown to them. If a man gets miffed, that's abuse. The preaching of biblical family and church dynamics is abuse.
A joke in the private men's forum is abuse.
If a feminist regrets sleeping with a man, she was raped.
Everything that makes a Feminist cry is rape and abuse.
And I don't buy the "hypnotized by power" or "shocked into submission" silliness, not in the IFB churches, and especially not in the SBC. Not with grown individuals. With children...actual children...that's a different thing.
But what Feminists call "abuse" is every slightest absence of the most perfect grace and rectitude shown to them. If a man gets miffed, that's abuse. The preaching of biblical family and church dynamics is abuse.
A joke in the private men's forum is abuse.
If a feminist regrets sleeping with a man, she was raped.
Everything that makes a Feminist cry is rape and abuse.
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Ascetic X
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Your response has zero Christian kindness or ethics in it. I now have a much clearer picture of your mentality.
Adultery is definitely abuse to the spouse who was cheated on.
Rape is certainly more than a woman regretting sleeping with a man.
You have no understanding of abuser psychology or how men in powerful authority positions can intimidate their victims. Some sex fiend pastors warn the women they exploit that if they reveal the ugly truth, it will ruin the pastor’s ministry and hundreds of people will lose their faith and go to hell.
Sometimes an abuse is so shocking, a victim can freeze emotionally and have trouble believing what happened. If they think they will be ridiculed or blamed for enticing a pastor, they can be slow to report it. Children especially can be mentally paralyzed and confused by abuse.
You simply hurl misogynist rhetoric at victimized women, belittling their suffering, so the patriarchal men can continue to denigrate women with their locker room humor.
You exemplify toxic masculinity.