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What is the Greatest Obligation That All Humans Have Toward God?

What is the greatest obligation that all humans have toward God?

  • Loving God

    Votes: 3 50.0%
  • Glorifying God

    Votes: 2 33.3%
  • Worshiping God

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other (please explain in a comment)

    Votes: 1 16.7%

  • Total voters
    6

KenH

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Matthew 22:35-38 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying, Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment.
 

Wesley Briggman

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The chief end of man is to glorify God and enjoy Him forever
[Mat 7:21-23 KJV] 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Please reconcile this scripture with your statement.
 

Ascetic X

Well-Known Member
[Mat 7:21-23 KJV] 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Please reconcile this scripture with your statement.
No reconciliation is needed.

Both principles are true and congruent.

@Marooncat79 said:

The chief end of man is to glorify God and enjoy Him forever.

If we glorify and enjoy God, that is doing the will of the Father in Heaven, thus, we will not be working iniquity and be told to depart from Jesus!
 

KenH

Well-Known Member
that is doing the will of the Father in Heaven

And the Bible teaches that Christ Jesus will completely accomplish the Father's will.

John 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
 

Scripture More Accurately

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Revelation 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, 7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

According to this passage, the everlasting gospel comprises fearing God, giving glory to Him, and worshiping Him. This text does not explicitly talk about loving God or enjoying Him.
 

Ascetic X

Well-Known Member
Revelation 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, 7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

According to this passage, the everlasting gospel comprises fearing God, giving glory to Him, and worshiping Him. This text does not explicitly talk about loving God or enjoying Him.
To fear God, give glory to God, and worship God contain the qualities of loving and enjoying Him.

You would need to love and enjoy God to fear, glorify, and worship God.
 

Ben1445

Well-Known Member
Scripture reveals that humans are obligated toward God in many ways: loving God, glorifying God, worshiping God, etc. What is the greatest obligation that all humans have toward God?
Micah 6:8
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good;
and what doth the LORD require of thee,
but to do justly, and to love mercy,
and to walk humbly with thy God?
 

Scripture More Accurately

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Do you have scripture to support your claim that Satan and demons worship God?
Yes.

Rev. 5:11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; 12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing. 13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever. 14 And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.

"Every creature" means exactly that in Revelation 5:13. Satan and his demons do not get an exemption from glorifying God by worshiping Him.
 

Ben1445

Well-Known Member
Yes.

Rev. 5:11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; 12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing. 13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever. 14 And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.

"Every creature" means exactly that in Revelation 5:13. Satan and his demons do not get an exemption from glorifying God by worshiping Him.
Based upon my understanding of Revelation, this is a future event that happens when the Lamb takes the book.
Rev. 5.8
And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.


As for timing…
Rev. 4.1
“… Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.”


And none of the preterists will agree with me.
 

Scripture More Accurately

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I do not believe that Satan and his demons will worship God. They rebelled against God and hate God. They will not suddenly be forced to glorify God at any point in history.
Wow. Really? This is a very serious denial on your part.

You think that Satan and his demons are so special that they deserve special treatment from God so that they are exempted from worshiping God and glorifying Him? Absolutely not true!

They most certainly will be forced to give all the glory to God and His Christ!
 

Scripture More Accurately

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Based upon my understanding of Revelation, this is a future event that happens when the Lamb takes the book.
Rev. 5.8
And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.


As for timing…
Rev. 4.1
“… Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.”


And none of the preterists will agree with me.
I detest preterism and am a futurist. Yes, it is a future event, but what it reveals proves what God ultimately will receive from all His creation--worship to His glory!
 

Ascetic X

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Wow. Really? This is a very serious denial on your part.

You think that Satan and his demons are so special that they deserve special treatment from God so that they are exempted from worshiping God and glorifying Him? Absolutely not true!

They most certainly will be forced to give all the glory to God and His Christ!
Your error is in thinking that, if Satan and his demons will one day be forced to worship and glorify God, that therefore worshiping and glorifying God by humans exercising their free will is not any great obligation.
 

kyredneck

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He hath showed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth Jehovah require of thee, but to do justly, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8
 
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