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  1. InTheLight

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    And what amount of training do real police officers go through before they get their badge? Anybody know?
     
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    The question at hand is if they are giving donations to secure membership in the Police Reserves in much the same way you would a country club? What they donate to get their hours is another story.

    And age or lack of training, he should not have been in a position where he had the opportunity to use deadly force on ANYONE.

    The entire idea is somewhat ludicrous. They aren't hired by the city. They aren't paid by the city. But they are able to use deadly force against someone else?

    This is crazy and needs to be shut down.
     
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  3. InTheLight

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    I would also add that they are not investigated by the city, either. They have carte blanche to do whatever they want. This is the problem in a nutshell.
     
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    A tragic accident.:tear:
     
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    Far less than 800 hours. It varies , but generally less than 400 hours.
     
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    Realize this man also had gone through full police training since he was a cop many years ago.
     
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    He was a cop for less than a year, I think one story said back in the 60s. Things have changed TREMENDOUSLY.
     
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    I guess they just charged him as they should have. But the city and the department still need to be held responsible.
     
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    Usually----such cases are turned over to the Alabama State Police invigation squads when such happens here in Alabama
     
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    But it doesn't negate the fact that in addition to the 800 hours of training for the reserve, he also did full police training.
     
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    50 plus years ago. If what he did 50 plus years ago mattered, they wouldn't have made him take the 800 hours of training.
     
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    Training is current. Sorry you weren't paying attention.
     
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    I'm well aware that the training is current. Sorry you weren't paying attention. He had to take current training because what he did 50 years ago didn't matter to the position today.
     
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    So you're now admitting that he is better trained than any police officer coming out of a typical police academy.
     
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    I admitted no such thing. You've got a reading problem.I just spoke to the irrelevancy of his training 50 years ago because it's 50 years old. Nothing more.
     
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    You might as well admit it.

    No officer coming out of a police academy has as many as 800 hours of training.

    So it wasn't lack of "training" that caused him to make such a mistake. That one will never fly in a court room.He drew the wrong weapon. Sounds like lack of practice. Maybe his weapons were too close to each other. Don't know. Either way, it shouldn't have happened.

    But without reserve officers, many sheriff's departments would be in a tough spot. Deputies, by and large, aren't paid anywhere near as much as police officers. They are chronically short of people.
     
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    I might as well say what I DID say. That's why I said it.

    So?

    How do you know? Maybe his 800 hours weren't in carrying a weapon and being the arresting officer and having to use deadly force.

    Primary weapons are positioned on the strong side and are generally aligned for quick access. Secondary weapons are often out of that alignment so that you realize that you're not grabbing for the primary weapon.


    Doesn't matter. Raise taxes. POs need to be doing PO work. Incidents like this will cost a municipality far more than paying additional regular officers.
     
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    Out of touch with reality, as usual.


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    #40 carpro, Apr 14, 2015
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