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It does not matter who is at got questions...he got this basic definition correct.
I use the 1689 confession of faith and it does not read as you write here.
Also I have heard Dr.White teach on these things in person and know what he means on these things.
It is clear you desire to twist and distort what is taught by your own warped logic which is at odds with the confessional statement as well as Dr Whites teaching.
The difference is we know God is not the author of sin which you desire to ascribe to Him.
Your twisted ideas are not going to get far here.

 

Here is the actual wording before you pervert it;
Of God's Decree — The 1689 Baptist Confession of Faith

 

No...everyone spoken of in 2 pet3:9 gets saved, not one is lost.

 

You are in opposition to the truth of God.whenever you and your other two companions post we can pretty much just take the opposite view and have truth.

 

If that were true, Peter would not be trying to stir up their minds and calling things to remembrance, lest they forget. There are not two contexts here. The scoffers are believers who have become faithless. Believers can become scoffers. Saved children go to college and lose their faith, becoming persuaded of atheism. Bart Ehrman comes to mind.

 

silverhair

God is the determiner of who is going to hell for their sins.

 

Do you see your contradiction in thought?

In your first thought you imply (if) that God chose.
Then you switch and turn God into a passive, impotent being, who has no clue to whom He is giving a gift. Instead, God has a gift that He cannot give...until that smart and crafty human chooses Him over all other gods. Once that smart and crafty human chooses YHWH, then...and only then...can God actually give that smart and crafty human the gift He has for that smart and crafty human.

You have a wimpy god who, while having an inkling of who might positively react to him, is impotent to act until the human chooses his gift rather than another god's gift.

Moreso, and this is very important, the Bible NEVER teaches what you have stated. Instead, you have a few sentences, plucked out of context, that you throw into a blender to create your own flavor of salvation. It is time for you to put away childish things and grow in your knowledge of God. (I speak as one who held your false view for many, many years and had to repent before God for cheapening His gracious gift while lifting my self to a position I never held.)

 

God already explained to His churches who are in Revelation 20:15.

 

With the promise those born of God their names will not in any way be blotted out. Revelation 3:5, 1 John 5:4-5.

 

How does pointing out that God planned salvation for man, before man existed, turning God into a passive being?

 

There is nothing more ignorant than a person teaching that God is wimpy, which is the free will teaching of God.

Paul laid out the position in his entire letter to the Romans where he destroys free will philosophy from start to finish. Read the whole letter. Memorize the whole letter. Submit to what Paul, by inspiration of God, tells you. You will abandon your current position when you do this.

 

Read Romans and let God conform you to His image.

 

God didn't "plan" and then hope the person would choose him.

God chose his children before the foundation of the world (Ephesians 1) and predestined them to redemption (Ephesians 1, Romans 8 - 11). God looked upon us in the deadness of our sins and chose to make us alive, give us faith and ordain good works for us to do (Ephesians 2).

You presented God as having a free gift, which he places down, says "Get your free gift here" and then waits for anyone smart enough to choose him. That's a wimpy god, who doesn't have the Supreme authority to act according to his own directive and save those who by nature are unwilling.

Romans 8:5-7

For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit. For to set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace. For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God’s law; indeed, it cannot.

 

He knew our hearts already before we existed. So He made provision for those hearts that would come into being and which hearts would act of their own free will -- a free will he would give to everyone -- to choose His deliverance. So He prepared that deliverance for those who would choose Him (of their own free will) before they even existed.

Calvinism seems to assume that if humans had free will to choose, that God would not be able to foresee those free will decisions and choose those people for a deliverance that He would prepare in advance for them.