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1 COR. 12:3 DOESN'T SUPPORT TOTAL INABILITY

Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by William C, Feb 28, 2003.

  1. Kiffin

    Kiffin New Member

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    Actually it proves you are not as familiar with Calvinists as you seem to profess my friend. Calvinist Baptists have always taken the interpretation of "non Calvinistic" Arminian commentators such as Menno Simmons, Michael Sattler, John Smyth, Thomas Helwys on the subject of Baptism and the Doctrine of the Church, Separation of Church and State, (Since Baptist Ecclesiology has roots with the Anabaptists and General Baptists , though ultimately scripture [​IMG] )over "Calvinistic" ones such as Calvin, Knox and Sproul. ;) Calvinists are not a monolithic group but actually disagree with one another every now and then. :eek: :D
     
  2. rufus

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    I Corinthians 12-14, in context, supports the view that Satan can counterfeit certain spiritual gifts. The historical setting suggests that unbelievers were speaking in "unknown tongues" and that many in the Corinthian Church desired to imitate or share that gift. Paul warned that some were cursing Christ under the guise of speaking for Christ. Of course, true spiritual gifts edify the church and glorify God.

    rufus [​IMG]
     
  3. William C

    William C New Member

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    Thank you Rufus for your objective and clear application of this verse.

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  4. Frogman

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    Jesus justified all mankind by the shedding of blood for the remission of sins. That was not done for only one segment of the population of the world, but for all mankind, because he made it so by extending the invitation to the gentiles (all the non Jews). To the best of my knowledge there is no reference to the gentiles in the Old Testament that describes any of them as be "the elect"

    Now we know how he justified us. What does it mean that "the justified" are Glorified? Whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. So we who believe are Glorified by having life eternal in Jesus, the Glorious, and worthy Lamb of God. Those who do not believe are self condemned, and not glorified! If you do not believe in Jesus, how can you believe in atonement?
    </font>[/QUOTE]So all being justified, which is a legal term, have already been to the bar and pronounced not guilty. Thus you espouse a universal redemption. If all are justified by the work of Christ, there is nothing, not even believing needed, justification supercedes all else.

    You are misapplying this. All the elect have been justified. Repentance is granted when the Holy Spirit is sent to any ONE or group of the elect and this justification is declared personal and their interest is found in the eternal decree of God.

    God Bless.
    Bro. Dallas [​IMG]
     
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