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10 Marines, 4 Soldiers Die in Iraq

Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by KenH, Dec 2, 2005.

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  1. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    #1 KenH, Dec 2, 2005
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    RIP, the sacrifice will not be forgotten.

    p4017
     
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    war is hell
     
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    What do you expect in war? A story with the sole purpose of causing division in America.
     
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  5. blackbird

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    If you think about it---and read history--you will find that what's going on right now with the "roadside bomb" things happening all the time---is no different than what went on in any other 20th century war America has participated in---the Japanese were notorious with booby traps---the Germans were no better mannered with their "mining" of just about everything that moved and that didn't move---and if you "stayed still" long enough---your head was in the "cross hair" of a Mauser Sniper rifle!!

    And don't even think that the Vietnamese and VC were little "school kids"---buddy---they'd booby trap you in a minute.
     
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    Absolutely. It would be much better if we didn't know about such things.
     
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    Absolutely. It would be much better if we didn't know about such things. </font>[/QUOTE]I know you're saying that tongue in cheek, but it happens to be the truth in this age of politicised reporting.
     
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  8. KenH

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    How is there politics involved to report the deaths of our fellow Americans protecting your hide and my hide? If you don't want this reported then, to be consistent, you probably didn't appreciate the report of a main al Qaeda leader being killed in Pakistan.
     
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    Who was being tongue in cheek?

    Only good news should be reported. Anything else is traitorous.
     
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    I stand corrected rsr. gladly
     
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    How is there politics involved to report the deaths of our fellow Americans protecting your hide and my hide? If you don't want this reported then, to be consistent, you probably didn't appreciate the report of a main al Qaeda leader being killed in Pakistan. </font>[/QUOTE]what I object to, and you know it, is the bias reporting by the various medias, against the war on terror, against GWB, and against our troops. The manner in which todays war in Iraq is reported would have lost us WW2, just as it lost us the Viet Nam war. It was with glee that the newsies approached 2,000 American deaths in Iraq. The idea of fair and balanced reporting, is old fashioned.
     
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    How is there politics involved to report the deaths of our fellow Americans protecting your hide and my hide? If you don't want this reported then, to be consistent, you probably didn't appreciate the report of a main al Qaeda leader being killed in Pakistan. </font>[/QUOTE]I do like the reports of the enemy losing, but I'd like the numbers of their casualities. It seems to be only our casualty numbers that get reported. I currently have no idea how many enemies we've killed.
     
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    "Gen. Tommy Franks, the top officer in the U.S. Central Command for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, summed up the American military's attitude when he told reporters during the Afghan campaign, "We don't do body counts."

    In fact, the Pentagon stopped counting the people killed by its soldiers after the Vietnam war, where the numbers publicized were often inflated by field commanders and Pentagon officials in attempts to show the war was going better than it was. Those attempts ultimately backfired when the body counts provided fuel for the anti-war movement.

    But the U.S. military, like the British, does count its own dead and wounded..."

    - LINK
     
    #13 KenH, Dec 4, 2005
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    Ken,

    I have no problem with you reporting about the deaths of our brave men and women who are fighting for the democracy of Iraq, and for the international security of the free world, especially since I know that you are honoring their sacrifice they have freely made for a noble mission, and not trying, as others have done, to use their deaths to undermine the mission for which they died and try and politicize their deaths, as others have, to turn American opinion against staying the course and finishing the job for which they died. It is right and proper for us to mourn their deaths to understand the great cost that has been, and still is, being paid for our freedom and security. It is also, therefore, right and proper to honor their sacrifice by acknowledging it publicly. It is also right and proper for us to, therefore, honor their deaths by completing the mission for which they died. Through their sacrifice, many will live in freedom and security. We owe them at least as much as to acknowledge their sacrifice for a noble cause. We owe them a debt of gratitude that we will never be able to repay. Thank you, Ken, for honoring their sacrifice by acknowledging it and by honoring the mission for which they gave their lives. It is the very least we can do.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
    #14 Joseph_Botwinick, Dec 4, 2005
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    Thanks, Joseph. I am glad to see that just because we disagree on the setting of a time table that you understand that I appreciate what our military men and women, including my grandnephew, are doing for us in Iraq as well as in Afghanistan and around the world.
     
    #15 KenH, Dec 4, 2005
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