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19 true things generals can't say in public about the Afghan war

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Bro. Curtis, Nov 10, 2011.

  1. Bro. Curtis

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    Pakistan is now an enemy of the United States.
    • We don't know why we are here, what we are fighting for, or how to know if we are winning.
    • The strategy is to fight, talk, and build. But we're withdrawing the fighters, the Taliban won't talk, and the builders are corrupt.
    • Karzai's family is especially corrupt.
    • We want President Karzai gone but we don't have a Pushtun successor handy.
    • But the problem isn't corruption, it is which corrupt people are getting the dollars. We have to help corruption be more fair.
    • Another thing we'll never stop here is the drug traffic, so the counternarcotics mission is probably a waste of time and resources that just alienates a swath of Afghans.
    • Making this a NATO mission hurt, not helped. Most NATO countries are just going through the motions in Afghanistan as the price necessary to keep the US in Europe
    • Yes, the exit deadline is killing us.
    • Even if you got a deal with the Taliban, it wouldn't end the fighting.
    • The Taliban may be willing to fight forever. We are not.
    • Yes, we are funding the Taliban, but hey, there's no way to stop it, because the truck companies bringing goods from Pakistan and up the highway across Afghanistan have to pay off the Taliban. So yeah, your tax dollars are helping Mullah Omar and his buddies. Welcome to the neighborhood.
    • Even non-Taliban Afghans don't much like us.
    • Afghans didn't get the memo about all our successes, so they are positioning themselves for the post-American civil war .
    • And they're not the only ones getting ready. The future of Afghanistan is probably evolving up north now as the Indians, Russians and Pakistanis jockey with old Northern Alliance types. Interestingly, we're paying more and getting less than any other player.
    • Speaking of positioning for the post-American civil war, why would the Pakistanis sell out their best proxy shock troops now?
    • The ANA and ANP could break the day after we leave the country.
    • We are ignoring the advisory effort and fighting the "big war" with American troops, just as we did in Vietnam. And the U.S. military won't act any differently until and work with the Afghan forces seriously until when American politicians significantly draw down U.S. forces in country-when it may be too damn late.
    • The situation American faces in Afghanistan is similar to the one it faced in Vietnam during the Nixon presidency: A desire a leave and turn over the war to our local allies, combined with the realization that our allies may still lose, and the loss will be viewed as a U.S. defeat anyway.
  2. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    Allies? Like Al Qaeda? We supposedly went to war with Afghanistan because Al Qaeda attacked us from a cave in that country. Now we've just helped them take over Libya.

    Our "foreign policy" is insane. But it keeps the munitions manufactures rolling in money and gives our government which as it turns out is heavily invested in the manufacture of munitions an excuse to crack down on civil liberties here at home.

    So, what's the real game here? Big $$$ for the few. Death and poverty to everyone else.

    Welcome to the New World Order.
    #2 poncho, Nov 12, 2011
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