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2008 Election is Rigged via Computer Voting?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by iq4truth, Jun 17, 2008.

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  1. iq4truth

    iq4truth New Member

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    Many informed Americans believe that the following top ten burning facts prove that computer software-governing voting machines have been used to put the in-your-face enemy of the Republican Party and its platform, John McCain, into the Republican presidential nomination.

    First, the McCain-Feingold Act violates the First Amendment.

    Second, McCain has long supported citizenship for criminal illegal immigrants.

    Third, McCain voted twice against Bush's tax cuts.

    Fourth, McCain opposes a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage.

    Fifth, McCain is pro-abortion!

    Sixth, McCain supports fascist global warming legislation.

    Seventh, McCain is one of the "Gang of 14" who averted a Senate showdown over whether filibusters could be used against Bush judicial nominees.

    Eighth, McCain is so liberal that in 2004, Democrat Kerry asked him to run as his Vice President!

    Ninth, Dr. James Dobson, Founder of Focus on the Family, stated that he would never vote for McCain.

    And tenth, only one Republican presidential candidate, we all saw via the outright overwhelming majority of lawn signs, bumper stickers, record-breaking Internet support and fund-raising records, had the powerful support of dedicated Americans, who was neither McCain, Huckabee, Romney, Giuliani, Brownback, Gilmore, Hunter, Tancredo, nor Thompson (guess who).

    If you can handle the Truth that backs these facts, get it at ErichLukas.com to save your country.
     
    #1 iq4truth, Jun 17, 2008
  2. donnA

    donnA Active Member

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    This is not true, and there have been many links posted here to prove it..

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18632802


    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/10/politics/animal/main4170052.shtml


    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/423/
    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/102650.php

    http://civilliberty.about.com/od/abortion/qt/mccain_abortion.htm


     
    #2 donnA, Jun 18, 2008
  3. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell Well-Known Member
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    The op is linked to a pro Ron Paul site. Enough said.
     
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  4. donnA

    donnA Active Member

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    I don't know anything about Ron Paul, but the people on this board make me not want to either.
     
    #4 donnA, Jun 18, 2008
  5. tinytim

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    McCain does support embryonic stem cell research.
    That is not prolife, and the prolife info passed out this past spring here does not support McCain because of this.


    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/95212.php
    http://www.ontheissues.org/john_mccain.htm Notice the second item from the bottom he voted in june 2004 to expand Embryonic Stem cell research...(about the time Kerry asked him to run for VP?)
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1963859/posts


    Although he now says he is against it on his presidential website...
    http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/95b18512-d5b6-456e-90a2-12028d71df58.htm

    Flip flop for votes!

    It sure sounds like the same ol McCain we have all watched compromise with the liberals, and turn tail when the wind blows...

    He is not to be trusted anymore than Obama is...
     
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  6. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Not pro-McCain, but I would appreciate any proof that he is pro-abortion.
     
    #6 NaasPreacher (C4K), Jun 18, 2008
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    Yeah, keep yerself ignorant. That'll show 'em.
     
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  8. donnA

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    I'm not ignorant thank you very much. But according to what people have said and represented here, I don't need to know more about him.
     
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  9. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Thanks, I didn't know this.

    Still don't know that it makes him pro-abortion.

    I agree he is no more trustworthy than Obama.
     
    #9 NaasPreacher (C4K), Jun 18, 2008
  10. Bro. Curtis

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    Like what ? Be specific, because it looks like you are just slamming him with nothing behind it.
     
    #10 Bro. Curtis, Jun 18, 2008
  11. tinytim

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    Right now he is Anti abortion, but not quite fully pro-life.

    You know there is more to being pro-life than just being against abortion...

    A prolife person is against Euthanasia, Eugenics, Embryonic stem cell research, Cloning, etc...

    He is courting the pro-life vote, But is being very quiet about it.
    He is trying to get the Hillary vote from women, and most of Hillary's women are pro-abortion, so he is caught in a rock and a hard place...

    If he courts the conservatives, he loses the moderates, and Liberals...
    If he courts the moderates and Liberals, he loses the conservatives...
    Of course it seems that neither the liberals or conservatives trust him.

    That is what happens when you swing both ways too many times...
    (NO I am not saying McCain is Bi... :laugh: )

    I fear Obama is going to win... he does not have to worry about pretending to be something he is not... his people love him the way he is...

    McCain is playing both ends of the candle and is going to get burned!
     
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  12. iq4truth

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    A Person's A Person No Matter How Small!

    Ron Paul was the only Republican Pro-life candidate. As seen below, by striving to legislate protection of all people from conception forward, Ron Paul is 100% pro-life, no exceptions; any exception to Life is DEATH.

    The Sanctity of Life Act is a bill initially introduced in the United States House of Representatives by Representative Ron Paul (R-TX) with five co-sponsors on February 10, 2005.

    The Act declares that: (1) human life shall be deemed to exist from conception, without regard to race, sex, age, health, defect, or condition of dependency; and (2) the term "person" shall include all such human life. Recognizes that each state has authority to protect the lives of unborn children residing in the jurisdiction of that state.

    Amends the federal judicial code to remove Supreme Court and district court jurisdiction to review cases arising out of any statute, ordinance, rule, regulation, or practice, or any act interpreting such a measure, on the grounds that such measure: (1) protects the rights of human persons between conception and birth; or (2) prohibits, limits, or regulates the performance of abortions or the provision of public funds, facilities, personnel, or other assistance for abortions.

    Tinytim understands the Biblical meaning of "Pro-Life." I see that he is a true defender of Life.

    If you are reading this and would like a reminder of what abortion really is, how the real Evil behind it is the same behind the Nazis, Margaret Sanger, Planned Parenthood, ethnic cleansing, racism, and evolution, I strongly encourage you to swallow very hard, pray for strength, and visit this page: Atrocities.

    "A Person's A Person No Matter How Small!"

    Horton realizes that unseen people are people too. Do you?

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    #12 iq4truth, Jun 19, 2008
  13. tinytim

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    I have been studying the history of Eugenics lately...
    Here in the US, and abroad.
    It is really scary when you look at Eugenics and Planned Parenthood, and see the parallels.

    It might surprise people to know that in the early part of 1907, Indiana passed laws to sterilize people based on certain traits... (Click Here) This was pre Hitler, but I have also learned that Hitler learned a little about ethnic cleansing from the US.

    After WW2, the Eugenics plan had to go underground, and not as open...

    Ask yourself, who uses Planned Parenthood.... The Poor in America, or the Rich?

    Eugenics wants to rid the world of the poor and undesirables...
     
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    Eugencs, abortion, environmental issues, and animal control are all part of the same agenda.
     
    #14 Revmitchell, Jun 19, 2008
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    It MAY be Rigged....but what can we do???

    If you are correct, and the vote is rigged, who in this nation can change the way the powers that be run things?

    Good luck with this one...they win, we lose; end of story! :BangHead:
     
    #15 righteousdude2, Jun 19, 2008
  16. poncho

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    That's how it is with Paul bashers Bro, they can't really find anything to slam him with so they just slam. They're comfortable with the way things are and would rather see the country go down the tubes and blame it on the "other side" than listen to reason. What can ya say to people like that?
     
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  17. iq4truth

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    Coalition for Voting Integrity

    Righteousdude2,

    Here's my local group:
    http://www.coalitionforvotingintegrity.org/

    They have links to groups around the nation, to get us back to a paper vote accountability system.

    It's one commissioner at a time. The Fed gave counties your tax money to purchase computer-only systems for voting. You can make your commish switch back to paper -it's that easy - it just takes educating your citizenry, calling your commish, and informing him/her that he/she will be seeking employment elsewhere after the next election if your vote is not proven accurate through dependable paper systems.
     
    #17 iq4truth, Jun 23, 2008
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    And paper voting can not be tampered with?
     
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  19. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    E voting machines are easily hacked and manipulated. Click Here.

    But beyond that and even more importantly the race itself is rigged. It's rigged so that one of the global elite's sock puppets will win. They (G-elite) own all the horses in the race anyway so however the vote may be rigged...by manipulating the machines or hand counts doesn't really matter all that much.

    Our "leaders" are chosen for us ahead of time. We just get to choose between candidates that the G-elite have already pre selected.
     
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