FP, I am all for looking past the surface. I don't have time to deal with all you have said so I'll only speak in general.
Have you ever heard of a book called "Shakedown". It documents how Jessie has enriched himself by approaching a business who has had a racial complaint and threatens boycotts and such, but in the end he gets concessions that line his pockets. He threatened Coke, and next thing you know, his two sons are granted licenses to own and operate coke distributerships. And He is respected in verious places around the world. Mostly by our enemies. On several occasions he as worked deals behind the administrations back to go pick up pow's. The countries know they will have to return the soldiers unharmed and will not risk Amarica's wrath, but they use Jessie to do it in a way that is embarrasing to the president and a great photo op for him. He has met with seveal heads of state during tense times without the blessing of the Administaration or State Dept. He helps the enemy with their propoganda. You will have a hard time convencing most white folks who live in diverse areas such as the South and Northern cities that Jessie is a good guy. He survives by keeping the race issues stired up. If the race issues were allowed to settle, he would be out of a job. Without stiring up race he would not be able to keep all blacks voting democratic and the demos would stop sponsering him. It is common for black misbehavior to be overlooked or justified using prompt up race charges. Sometimes he has responded to ligetamte issues, but mostly he as made a business and political machine out of race, and he has to create problems to maintain his power and posistion. And he has often said thing about whites and jews that have proved him to be a biggot.
I think you are right blacks have made progress -with white help. But the Demos and Jackson want to overlook all that and keep the racial scarecrow always hoisted high.
I am not saying that the black population is full of loosers. I am saying their are some mentalities their that hold them back. Jessie and the demos promote it. Some call it the slave mentality, some call it the victim mentality. We are seeing a prime example of this mentality, and the use of race in unsundry ways, in the NO situation. Let me give you a prime example of how this is used. On the reality show, "The Apprentice", a black woman was having a disagreement with a white woman on a non-race related issue. The white woman says, "that is the pot calling the kettle black." Of course, the black woman accuses the white woman of using a racial slur. This was an educated accomplished black woman. She knew better, but it is to easy to play the race card. And it works to often.
I work in health care and I know the faces of the people who use Medicaid, there is more to social programs than just welfare checks. Blacks are disporportionantly represented. Not to mention all the other welfare programs. Head start, subsidized day care etc etc etc.
Welfare reform has moved many people off the roles. That was a Republican move supported by Clinton when he was about to loose his second term. Even though the picture has improved for blacks and gotter worse for whites (due to outsourcing of their jobs), The fact remains that blacks have disproportionant numbers on social programs and in prison. Blacks are only 17 percent of the Pop. and they contribute the majority of the prisoners. That is astounding! We should not minimize this. I am aware that 50 percent of blacks are not in prison, and I am glad for it. Nothing I say should impune the reputation of decent hard working blacks. You are working so hard to minimize what I am saying, but Cosby said it, Larry Elders and other conservative black commentators are saying it. But the media wont give them the time of day. In fact the whole point about our societies giving black misbehavior a pass, because of a deep seated belief that blacks can't do any better, came out of a Larry Elder's book(a black man).
We won't even talk about the things in rap music. And it is commonly overtly racist. Hateful toward whites. But again, we give them a pass. Because they can't do any better -wrong!
You are also right that whites are letting go of the traditonal values that have sustained us all of these years. We have failed to stand firm. I know teen pregnancies have become rampant in the white community as well. It is a shame. But this is a fairly recent development for whites. But it has always been this way for blacks. I hope it is reversed just as I hope all the things that hold blacks down can be reversed.
But as long as the demos with he help of Jessie and Sharpton keep the mentality they have, they will keep blacks from reaching thir potential. The great society, and its "entitlements" have tainted everything it has touched.
FP-"My whole point is that we as a society need to look beyond the surface to the real core of the issue. Suprisingly we might find something.
Only then can we move forward together as "ONE nation, UNDER God".
I certainly agree with this. But I think we can only achieve it with the kind of honesty that people like Cosby and Elders are brave enough to speak. Welfare and affirmative action and lowering standards at jobs and Colleges should have only been a short term help. These things should never have become institutionalized. The institutinalization of these things has tainted everyone who it touches, and it has hurt blacks most of all. It has impeded their progress.
Back to Jackson, I know he has his "base" in the black community, but he could never maintain the national presence he has if he depended only on his black base. The democrates keep him in power. No white man would reamain in power if they were involved in the scandles Sharpton and Jessie have been involved with.
Well you wrote to much for me to resond to it all. I know it is important to you to make blacks look as good as you can, but only the plain truth will accomplish anything. And based on how Cosby, keys, Elders and others are recieved in the black community, I don't see the truth being accepted any times soon. It appears we will be in this rut for sometime to come, to the detriment of us all. And especially to the detrement of the magnificent black men and women who deserve the accolades they have earned.
PS. I am only a Republican because I have no better alternitive, so you should not think of me as a republican appologist.
Have you ever heard of a book called "Shakedown". It documents how Jessie has enriched himself by approaching a business who has had a racial complaint and threatens boycotts and such, but in the end he gets concessions that line his pockets. He threatened Coke, and next thing you know, his two sons are granted licenses to own and operate coke distributerships. And He is respected in verious places around the world. Mostly by our enemies. On several occasions he as worked deals behind the administrations back to go pick up pow's. The countries know they will have to return the soldiers unharmed and will not risk Amarica's wrath, but they use Jessie to do it in a way that is embarrasing to the president and a great photo op for him. He has met with seveal heads of state during tense times without the blessing of the Administaration or State Dept. He helps the enemy with their propoganda. You will have a hard time convencing most white folks who live in diverse areas such as the South and Northern cities that Jessie is a good guy. He survives by keeping the race issues stired up. If the race issues were allowed to settle, he would be out of a job. Without stiring up race he would not be able to keep all blacks voting democratic and the demos would stop sponsering him. It is common for black misbehavior to be overlooked or justified using prompt up race charges. Sometimes he has responded to ligetamte issues, but mostly he as made a business and political machine out of race, and he has to create problems to maintain his power and posistion. And he has often said thing about whites and jews that have proved him to be a biggot.
I think you are right blacks have made progress -with white help. But the Demos and Jackson want to overlook all that and keep the racial scarecrow always hoisted high.
I am not saying that the black population is full of loosers. I am saying their are some mentalities their that hold them back. Jessie and the demos promote it. Some call it the slave mentality, some call it the victim mentality. We are seeing a prime example of this mentality, and the use of race in unsundry ways, in the NO situation. Let me give you a prime example of how this is used. On the reality show, "The Apprentice", a black woman was having a disagreement with a white woman on a non-race related issue. The white woman says, "that is the pot calling the kettle black." Of course, the black woman accuses the white woman of using a racial slur. This was an educated accomplished black woman. She knew better, but it is to easy to play the race card. And it works to often.
I work in health care and I know the faces of the people who use Medicaid, there is more to social programs than just welfare checks. Blacks are disporportionantly represented. Not to mention all the other welfare programs. Head start, subsidized day care etc etc etc.
Welfare reform has moved many people off the roles. That was a Republican move supported by Clinton when he was about to loose his second term. Even though the picture has improved for blacks and gotter worse for whites (due to outsourcing of their jobs), The fact remains that blacks have disproportionant numbers on social programs and in prison. Blacks are only 17 percent of the Pop. and they contribute the majority of the prisoners. That is astounding! We should not minimize this. I am aware that 50 percent of blacks are not in prison, and I am glad for it. Nothing I say should impune the reputation of decent hard working blacks. You are working so hard to minimize what I am saying, but Cosby said it, Larry Elders and other conservative black commentators are saying it. But the media wont give them the time of day. In fact the whole point about our societies giving black misbehavior a pass, because of a deep seated belief that blacks can't do any better, came out of a Larry Elder's book(a black man).
We won't even talk about the things in rap music. And it is commonly overtly racist. Hateful toward whites. But again, we give them a pass. Because they can't do any better -wrong!
You are also right that whites are letting go of the traditonal values that have sustained us all of these years. We have failed to stand firm. I know teen pregnancies have become rampant in the white community as well. It is a shame. But this is a fairly recent development for whites. But it has always been this way for blacks. I hope it is reversed just as I hope all the things that hold blacks down can be reversed.
But as long as the demos with he help of Jessie and Sharpton keep the mentality they have, they will keep blacks from reaching thir potential. The great society, and its "entitlements" have tainted everything it has touched.
FP-"My whole point is that we as a society need to look beyond the surface to the real core of the issue. Suprisingly we might find something.
Only then can we move forward together as "ONE nation, UNDER God".
I certainly agree with this. But I think we can only achieve it with the kind of honesty that people like Cosby and Elders are brave enough to speak. Welfare and affirmative action and lowering standards at jobs and Colleges should have only been a short term help. These things should never have become institutionalized. The institutinalization of these things has tainted everyone who it touches, and it has hurt blacks most of all. It has impeded their progress.
Back to Jackson, I know he has his "base" in the black community, but he could never maintain the national presence he has if he depended only on his black base. The democrates keep him in power. No white man would reamain in power if they were involved in the scandles Sharpton and Jessie have been involved with.
Well you wrote to much for me to resond to it all. I know it is important to you to make blacks look as good as you can, but only the plain truth will accomplish anything. And based on how Cosby, keys, Elders and others are recieved in the black community, I don't see the truth being accepted any times soon. It appears we will be in this rut for sometime to come, to the detriment of us all. And especially to the detrement of the magnificent black men and women who deserve the accolades they have earned.
PS. I am only a Republican because I have no better alternitive, so you should not think of me as a republican appologist.
