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A Sampling of Conservative Ambivalence Towards Iraq

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Ivon Denosovich, Oct 23, 2007.

  1. Ivon Denosovich

    Ivon Denosovich New Member

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    Bill Buckley

    George Will

    Former Reagan speech writer Peggy Noonan

    Bill O'Reilly

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    Former neoconservative, philosopher, economist, and one time advocate of overthrowing Saddam, Francis Fukuyama

    Newt Gingrich

     
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  2. 2 Timothy2:1-4

    2 Timothy2:1-4 New Member

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    Ivon have you ever posted on this board under another name?
     
  3. Ivon Denosovich

    Ivon Denosovich New Member

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    <off topic> Since you aren't responding to the private message: No I have not. Neither do I work for the Ron Paul campaign if that's your next question. :rolleyes:

    Btw, why ask that in a thread? </off topic>

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    U S Generals

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    I received your pm at 11:09, I responded to it at 11:14, you posted this at 11:21. That is 7 minutes between when I responded and you made this accusation. I responded 7 minutes before you posted. However "no" would have been sufficient.
     
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    "A Sampling of Conservative Ambivalence Towards Iraq "

    They wouldn't be human if they weren't "ambivalent" at times.

    Noonan makes one comment that is so clearly wrong that it stands out. :laugh: Contrary to what she says, Americans are well known for their impatience. Iraq is just another example.

    Plus there is no evidence that all your quotes come from "conservatives". Although some of them are well known, "generals" is a catch all generic and you don't know if they're conservative or not.

    I'd also like to see Gingrich' quote in context, not lifted from a third party.
     
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    American military personnel, through their blood and sacrifice, won the Iraq long ago. And if American military power can somehow, someway, get the Sunnis and Shiites to live in peace in Iraq, it will again be American military personnel through their blood and sacrifice going through tour of duty after tour of duty after tour of duty that win the day.
     
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    Your link, Ken, is against what the military has done in Iraq all the way.

    http://www.lp.org/issues/platform_all.shtml

    IV. Foreign Affairs
    American foreign policy should seek an America at peace with the world and the defense -- against attack from abroad -- of the lives, liberty, and property of the American people on American soil. Provision of such defense must respect the individual rights of people everywhere.

    The principle of non-intervention should guide relationships between governments. The United States government should return to the historic libertarian tradition of avoiding entangling alliances, abstaining totally from foreign quarrels and imperialist adventures, and recognizing the right to unrestricted trade, travel, and immigration.
     
  9. KenH

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    I think that you missed my point, cmg. It the sacrifice and blood of American military personnel that secures America's goals in Iraq. It is American military personnel who win, who achieve victory, not politicians.
     
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    A defeat would have been charged to Bush, however, and properly so. An impending victory, won by the military under the leadership of the Commander in Chief, would cause the defeat of a couple of politicos....
     
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    I agree. Our military does not fail. But politicians do.
     
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    If there is a victory in Iraq before the election, I am sure that Hillary and Ron can say that they secretly supported the war all along. :laugh: :laugh:
     
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