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Abortion Breast Cancer Link

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Revmitchell, Jan 29, 2010.

  1. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell Well-Known Member
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    Feb 18, 2006
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    In 1986, government scientists wrote a letter to the British journal Lancet and acknowledged that abortion is a cause of breast cancer. They wrote, "Induced abortion before first term pregnancy increases the risk of breast cancer." (Lancet, 2/22/86, p. 436)

    As of 2006, eight medical organizations recognize that abortion raises a woman's risk for breast cancer, independently of the risk of delaying the birth of a first child (a secondary effect that all experts already acknowledge). An additional medical organization, the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, issued a statement in 2003 calling on doctors to inform patients about a "highly plausible" relationship between abortion and breast cancer. General counsel for that medical group wrote an article for its journal warning doctors that three women (two Americans, one Australian) successfully sued their abortion providers for neglecting to disclose the risks of breast cancer and emotional harm, although none of the women had developed the disease.

    Medical Groups Recognizing Link


    A list of medical organizations recognizing a link between abortion and
    breast cancer is provided below. Telling women their abortions are related
    to increased breast cancer risk is clearly not good for cancer fundraising
    businesses, the abortion industry and the pharmaceutical industry. Medical
    groups whose doctors do not perform abortions or refer women for abortions
    will be among the first to recognize that abortion raises a woman's breast
    cancer risk.

    National Physicians Center for Family Resources
    P.O. Box 59692
    Birmingham, AL 35259

    The National Physicians Center for Family Resources offers a CD intended for parents and health educators which cites "increased breast cancer risk" as a "long-term complication of abortion" and offers a biological explanation for the abortion-breast cancer link. The CD is entitled, "Prescriptions for Parents: A Physicians' Guide to Adolescence and Sex."

    Catholic Medical Association
    2020 Pennsylvania Ave. NW, #864
    Washington, DC 20006
    Tel: 1-877-CATHDOC (877-228-4362)

    "Whereas epidemiological evidence of an association between abortion and
    breast cancer has existed for almost a half century,

    "Whereas 29 our ot 38 worldwide epidemiological studies show an increased
    risk of breat cancer of approximately 30% among women who have had an

    "Whereas all women undergoing abortion are entitled to full informed consent
    as to all risks including long term risks,

    "Therefore be it resolved that the Catholic Medical Association endorses the
    passage of state legislation to require abortionists to inform all women of
    their future increased vulnerability to breast cancer."

    Resolution Approved 10/15/03

    American Association of Pro-Life Obstetricians and Gynecologists
    844 South Washington, Suite 1600
    Holland, MI 49423

    AAPLOG has posted a position statement about the ABC link on its website.

    Breast Cancer Prevention Institute
    9 Vassar St.
    Poughkeepsie, NY 12601

    The Polycarp Research Institute
    2232 Second Avenue
    Altoona, PA 16602

    Ehtics and Medics
    6399 Drexel Road
    Philadelphia, PA 19151

    MaterCare International
    8 Riverview Avenue
    St. John's, Newfoundland
    Canada A1C 2S5
    Phone: 709-579-6472
    Fax: 709- 579-6501
    E-Mail: [email protected]

    Statement Concerning the Link between Induced Abortion and Breast Cancer, R. L. Walley. FRCSC., FRCOG., MPH Executive Director and Honourary Research Professor of Obstetrics and Gynaecology

    "MaterCare International an international group of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists was presented with the evidence of the link between abortion and breast cancer at its international conference in Rome in October 2004 by Dr Joel Brind's research group. The medical explanation and the epidemiological evidence convinced our group that there is a significant increase in breast cancer risk after induced abortion, especially before the first full term pregnancy. This evidence has been denied by the U.S. National Cancer Institute (NCI) and other researchers. Recently ten studies have been published in an attempt to discredit Brind's conclusion.

    "In turn Brind has examined these ten studies and in a peer reviewed paper published in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons (Vol 10, No 4, Winter 2005, <http://www.jpands.org>) he has shown that they have serious methodological weaknesses and flaws and therefore do not invalidate the conclusion that there is a increased risk of breast cancer.

    "Women have a basic right to know of this increased risk of breast cancer and it is unacceptable that the information should be denied to them by the medical and cancer research establishments. MaterCare International as an organisation of women's health specialists recognies its responsibilities in this matter and will do all it can to publish this evidence."

    Breast Care Center-EAMC
    G/F OPD Bldg East Avenue Medical Center, East Avenue,
    Quezon City, Philippines
    Phone: (632)-928-0611 loc 578
    E-mail: [email protected]

    Medical Groups Supporting Disclosure of Research

    Association of American Physicians and Surgeons
    1601 N. Tucson Blvd., Suite 9
    Tucson, AZ 85716-3450

    "The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons believes that patients have the right to give or withhold fully informed consent before undergoing medical treatment. This includes notification of potential adverse effects. While there is a difference of medical opinion concerning the abortion breast cancer link, there is a considerable volume of evidence supporting this link, which is, moreover, highly plausible. We believe that a reasonable person would want to be informed of the existence of this evidence before making her decision."

    Jane Orient, MD
    Executive Director
    October 27, 2003

    Read Mrs. Malec's article, "The Abortion-Breast Cancer Link: How Politics
    Trumped Science and Informed Consent," in the Journal of American Physicians
    and Surgeons: www.jpands.org/vol8no2/malec.pdf

    Medical Groups in Need of Political Courage

    Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists

    American Medical Association
    - A spokesman for the AMA told World Net Daily that its group "doesn't have a policy at all" on whether its doctors should inform women about the abortion-breast cancer research. [John Dougherty, "Can doctors be sued over abortion? Those who don't inform patients of breast cancer link could be targets,"
    World Net Daily March 27, 2002.
    Available at: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26970
    Visited October 8, 2003.

    American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists

    American Society of Breast Surgeons

    Miami Breast Cancer Conference

    All Cancer Groups
  2. Johnv

    Johnv New Member

    Oct 24, 2001
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    I'm sure it won't be long before I get blasted for being a left win liberal, or advocating the killing of babies, or some such nonsense, but the fact is that there have been numerous studies on the subject, and it has never been shown that abortions cause cancer.

    The American Cancer Society states very clearly: "research studies have not found a cause-and-effect relationship between abortion and breast cancer." Out of any not-for-profit organization, the ACS would benefit if there were such a link, yet they plainly state there is none:


    And for the record, I'm 100% against elective abortion, across the board.
  3. windcatcher

    windcatcher New Member

    Apr 28, 2007
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    No, You wont get blasted as supporting abortions:

    You will get blasted, however, for your refusals to accept valid data by those of professional stature who are acquainted well with research processes and have published their conclusions: IOW, you are publishing on this BB your ignorance and acceptance as the botton line the stand of the politically and corporately supported organizations, supposedly 'reputable', i.e. the NIH and ACS as being the bottom line and honest.

    What about this statement is so difficult for Johnv to understand. 3/4ths of the studies have been suppressed by the influence of money and power behind the abortion mills:

    People think the AMA is a valid organization. They don't realize that the hierarchy of its organization are those in positions of research and accademia. They are seldom, if ever, involved in private practice and their lively hood is dependent on government or pharmeceutical funding with pre-determined outcomes expected. They support each others promotions and recognition within their organization and ostracize and break the reputations of those who dare to break rank who would expose their deliberate manipulation of data.

    The ACS also is publically and privately funded and supported.... but a major funding and promotion comes from big Pharmaceutical companies. The pharmeceutical companies make their billions of dollars in income based upon the treatment of disease and chronic conditions and not in the CURE. People in top positions move in and out of the FDA and DOD and the boards or positions within the pharmeceutical industry, and benefit not only from their personal investments but also self serving employment security. The ACS benefits from many donors and pick our pockets either due to our own experience with cancer or our sympathies and relationship to others who have cancer. They promote some research, education in cancer diagnosis and s/s (signs and symptoms) of cancer, and the accepted standards of treatment. So much of their literature and promotion is backed by pharmeceutical industry, that it can hardly be called devoid of influence.

    The way the MSM references these and others as authorities and spokemen for health related issues.... we make assumptions of trust. We fail to recognize that often controversies are not presented or if presented, are not given with their reference of experience, studies, or groups recognizing them so that we can check out their credentials.

    But, believe what you want to johnv. You were so certain regarding the H1N1 pandemic and the necessity of the flu shot. There is so much evidence coming out that it was a global manipulation of people's fears..... some in the EU are calling for an investigation. Here, many are now saying that much of the hospitalization attributed and tallied as being swine flu related wasn't validated and wasn't so. The incidence of reactions to the vaccine and the spontaneous miscarrages which occurred in pregnant women wasn't adequately kept or investigated by the FDA. These agencies and orgnizations do have their own agendas..... and it is not as benevolent as we're lead to believe. Follow the money. The Bible is correct. THE LOVE OF MONEY is the ROOT OF ALL EVIL.
  4. Johnv

    Johnv New Member

    Oct 24, 2001
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    That would be a first. I've been accused of such several times.
    The problem is that the OP doesn't reference said data. The OP simply makes the claim, but without referencing said data. Plus, it doesn't address study after study after atudy that shows no cause and effect link whatsoever between abortion and breast cancer, such as:

    A 2008 study by the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists.
    A 1989 study by Drs Senie and Bzduch on abortion and breast cancer risk among women under age 40.
    Three separate mammary carcinogenesis studies by Dr J Russo (1980, 1982, 1987)
    A 1996 study by Drs Daling, Brinton, Voigt, and others, studying the frequency of breast cancer among white women following abortion.
    A 1997 study by Drs Melbye, Wohlfahrt, Olsen, Frisch, Westergaard, Helweg-Larsen, Andersen, and others, on abortion and the frequency risk of breast cancer.
    Three separate studies by the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists

    and about 20 others.
    You're dead wrong there. ACS is 100% private and not-for-profit. While it's true that ACS gets donations from numerous corporate donors, the bulk of funds is at the grass-roots level, from individuals like me and you.

    If your claim is that they purposefully skew or hide studies to favor pharmaceutical companies, the facts say otherwise. They've released studies showing that several pharmaceuticals mask cancers, such as prescription anti-inflammitories, as well as studies on how some pharmaceuticals are ineffective against certain cancers.

    Additionally, if abortions caused cancer, it would benefit the ACS, since they could use it as a fundraising opportunity, plus pharmaceuticals would benefit, since they could market their products to combat such cancers. So, given the fact that that ACS would benefit from an abortion-cancer link, their reporting that no such link exists says a lot, not to mention that fact that it's true. There just isn't sufficient evidence to link abortion to cancer.
    I believe the facts as they are, not conjecture, speculation, or innuendo. I'm all for speculating, but but refrain from passing off speculation as objectivity.
    You're quite mistaken. My position was that claims of the H1N1a vaccine being dangerous were fictitious, and it turned out to be true. My position was that people should vaccinate themselves against H1H1a in the same manner as the common seasonal flu. In fact, if you look at my posts, I said very consistently that there are some 40k deaths from the flu ever year, and that even if we got 50k deaths from H1N1a, this would be within the realm of normal.
  5. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell Well-Known Member
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    Well said........
  6. Johnv

    Johnv New Member

    Oct 24, 2001
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    But false, nonetheless, especially the last paragraph. Given the fact that you, revmitchell, once called me a "libbie" for my position on abortion (something for which youv'e never repented), I find your reponse amusing.
    #6 Johnv, Jan 29, 2010
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