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About the filioque

Discussion in 'Free-For-All Archives' started by FLMike, Apr 4, 2005.

  1. FLMike

    FLMike Guest

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    I saw the filioque mentioned in one of Matt Black's posts, and I'm wondering if people here accept it, that is, do they believe that the Holy Spirit procedes from the Father and the Son, or do they believe the Holy Spirit procedes from the Father alone (or do they believe something else entirely)?

    [ April 04, 2005, 05:19 PM: Message edited by: FLMike ]
     
  2. Doubting Thomas

    Doubting Thomas Active Member

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    I do not accept it.
     
  3. tragic_pizza

    tragic_pizza New Member

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    My understanding of Trinitarian doctrine comes from the Nicene Creed. If this filioque is that, specifically, then yes.
     
  4. Jeff Weaver

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    Father & Son both.
     
  5. BobRyan

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    The Holy Spirit is the Third PERSON of the Godhead.

    What are you asking?

    IN Christ,

    Bob
     
  6. TP

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    Greetings,

    Theologically not many people have problems with the Holy Spirit proceeding from the Father and the Son, however, what people have BIG problems with is how it got into the creed, and whether it should be in the creed. The Orthodox do not want the creed to be changed UNLESS there is an ecumenical council.

    peace
     
  7. Bro. Curtis

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    John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.


    Fergit the creeds, look at scripture. This states the Holy Spirit is a gift from the Father. As was the son, a gift.
     
  8. Bro. Curtis

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    Make that..... "as IS the son..."
     
  9. billwald

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    I personally think that the Orthodox Church makes a better case else we have a chain of command problem.
     
  10. FLMike

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    I'm asking whether the Holy Spirit procedes from the Father alone, or from the Father and the Son, or some third option.
     
  11. Matt Black

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    THe Father alone. The filioque was an unauthorised addition in the (non-ecumenical) Council of Toledo which in turn reflected an earlier Frankish practice. It has at no time been sanctioned by the whole Church and should be rejected.

    Yours in Christ

    Matt
     
  12. BobRyan

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    I'm asking whether the Holy Spirit procedes from the Father alone, or from the Father and the Son, or some third option. </font>[/QUOTE]Third option.

    The three persons of the Godhead are all eternal - co-equal, all-knowing etc.

    One does not "proceed from the other" ontologically. But they do seem to have a hierarchy.

    In Christ,

    Bob
     
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