Accountability

I thought we had gone into surpluses by the end of 2000, ahead of schedule. Was that just an accounting trick?

Besides the immediate devastation caused by 9/11, NY State and its municipalities spent a ton of money for security and even more for the appearance of security.

 

Yes, it was. The actual deficit was hidden by using the yearly Social Security surplus.

Just look at the actual yearly deficit since this 1997 law was passed:

09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62
09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16
09/28/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06
09/29/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34

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The plan is to loot the treasury and then loot the future treasuries by deficit spending.

Bush will be out of office and long gone when the bills come due.

 

The plan is to loot the treasury and then loot the future treasuries by deficit spending.

Bush will be out of office and long gone when the bills come due.

If we had been conquered and pillaged, we'd have been better off; pillagers can only steal what you have presently.

 

You act like this is something new when it has gone on year after year since 1932. You constantly blame Bush, but never say a bad word against the liberals in Congress who actually are the ones who spent the money.

And what is your solution? Vote in the Democrats again. The GOP only had total control of both houses and the White House in 1952 to 1954 under Eisenhower. Now the margin is paper thin and there are too many liberal Republicans who will doublecross the party in a heartbeat for pork.

And are you one of those who call Bush and the conservatives "cut-throats" like the terrorists who started the bloodbath in the French Revolution that led to the dictatorship of Napoleon? Do you think that the GOP is a bunch of murderers?

 

I was under the impression that quite a bit of the Bush deficit spending was deliberate in order to force social spending cuts. No matter who comes into office in 2004, they will have to deal with it, most likely by cutting services. I think it will be a bad time to be poor.

 

Republican Senator Lincoln Chaffee of Rhode Island needs to be defeated. He is an example of an eastern liberal Republican who votes with the Democrats most of the time. If the party would purge liberals like Chaffee and support more conservatives, then maybe spending could be brought under control. The Indiana Republican delegation is conservative. They stick with the party for the most part. The bulk of the problem for as long as I can remember is eastern Republicans. The East has three characteristics: crowded, dirty, and expensive.

 

In a way, Bush is sort of an eastern Republican. His family has been around so long that they probably know everyone. That is the problem with being part of the rich establishment. I like the Grandfather and the Father. I especially like Bush 41 except for his failure to keep his promise not to raise taxes. Bush 41 is so intelligent and did so much for this country! The Democrats have never had a man to compare with Bush 41, who dedicated his life to public service and had brains without character defects. Of course, Reagan is champion for good-nature and political thought. Ike was good to for middle-of-the road. They are trying to smear Ike with extra-marital affairs but no one can prove it as far as I know.

 

Pa. JIm,
What you have to keep in mind, is that at this time in history our country does not look to Christians views, not even in alot of churches, or in the family.

What we see in the home, at work, at church and where ever else we go will tell us that most of the people don't care as long as they get what they want. Look how fast the family breaks up, look at how many people live off the goverment, by getting goverment aid or working for the goverment. Most people wants something from the goverment, they look to the goverment for help and guidance and politicians, not God!!!!

Guestion? How many today would vote for George Washington or other one of the Adams just for a few?

I was very active in the Republican Party here in Florida and in my county most are liberals from up in your part of the country, Pa. NJ, NY and New England. The Republicans today are about where the Democrats were in the 60's and 70's. Why? Liberals have taken over most of the education in this country. It isn't our founding fathers any more it's our framers and the list goes on and on.

I like Bush better than Gore or Clinton but all 3 are liberals.

 

Not to us liberals, they're not.

 

To most of the liberals of today JFK might not be called a liberal, but to me he was very liberal.

 

I would. I'd bet that you would. Many here and in our churches would vote for him if he were a Republican, and crucify him if he were a Democrat. That's what's so sad. </font>[/QUOTE]So true, Jim.