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Agincourt - October 25, 1415

Discussion in 'History Forum' started by Dr. Bob, Oct 14, 2003.

  1. Dr. Bob

    Dr. Bob Administrator

    Jun 30, 2000
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    If we are mark'd to die, we are enow
    To do our country loss; and if to live,
    The fewer men, the greater share of honour.
    God's will! I pray thee, wish not one man more.

    By Jove, I am not covetous for gold,
    Nor care I who doth feed upon my cost;
    It yearns me not if men my garments wear;
    Such outward things dwell not in my desires.

    But if it be a sin to covet honour,
    I am the most offending soul alive.
    No, faith, my coz, wish not a man from England.
    God's peace! I would not lose so great an honour
    As one man more methinks would share from me
    For the best hope I have. O, do not wish one more!

    Rather proclaim it, Westmoreland, through my host,
    That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
    Let him depart; his passport shall be made,
    And crowns for convoy put into his purse;
    We would not die in that man's company
    That fears his fellowship to die with us.

    This day is call'd the feast of Crispian.
    He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
    Will stand a tip-toe when this day is nam'd,
    And rouse him at the name of Crispian.

    He that shall live this day, and see old age,
    Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
    And say 'To-morrow is Saint Crispian.'

    Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars,
    And say 'These wounds I had on Crispian's day.'
    Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot,
    But he'll remember, with advantages,
    What feats he did that day.

    Then shall our names,
    Familiar in his mouth as household words-
    Harry the King, Bedford and Exeter,
    Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester-
    Be in their flowing cups freshly rememb'red.
    This story shall the good man teach his son;
    And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
    From this day to the ending of the world,
    But we in it shall be remembered-

    We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
    For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
    Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
    This day shall gentle his condition;
    And gentlemen in England now-a-bed
    Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,
    And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
    That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.

    --Henry V

    Anyone else love this part of history like I do?
  2. Dr. Bob

    Dr. Bob Administrator

    Jun 30, 2000
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    For the Victory at Agincourt

    Owre kynge went forth to Normandy,
    With grace and myyt of chivalry;
    The God for hym wrouyt marvelously,
    Wherefore Englonde may calle, and cry
    Deo gratias:
    Deo gratias Anglia redde pro victoria.

    He sette a sege, the sothe for to say,
    To Harflue toune with ryal aray;
    That toune he wan, and made a fray,
    That Fraunce shall rywe tyl domes day.
    Deo gratias:
    Deo gratias Anglia redde pro victoria.

    Then went owre kynge, with alle his oste,
    Thorowe Fraunce for all the Frenshe boste;
    He spared 'for' drede of leste, ne most,
    Tyl he come to Agincourt coste.
    Deo gratias:
    Deo gratias Anglia redde pro victoria.

    Than for sothe that knyyt comely
    In Agincourt feld he fauyt manly
    Thorow grace of God most myyty
    He had bothe the felde, and the victory
    Deo gratias:
    Deo gratias Anglia redde pro victoria.

    Ther dukys, and erlys, lorde and barone,
    Were take, and slayne, and that wel sone,
    And some were ledde in to Lundone
    With joye, and merthe, and grete renone
    Deo gratias:
    Deo gratias Anglia redde pro victoria.

    Noe gratious God he save owre kynge,
    His peple, and all his wel wyllynge,
    Gef him gode lyfe, and gode endynge,
    That we with merth mowe savely syng
    Deo gratias:
    Deo gratias Anglia redde pro victoria.
  3. Bartholomew

    Bartholomew New Member

    Feb 18, 2002
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    We beat the French!!! Yep, I love it. :D [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Land of Hope and Glory, and God save the Queen!

  4. Major B

    Major B <img src=/6069.jpg>

    May 6, 2003
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    One of my favorite battles. Some questions.

    1. Why did the French not "get it" after the Battle of Crecy in 1346? Long bows trump armor every time!

    2. Why did the French attack on a narrow front through a narrowing meadow, allowing the bowmen to kill them piecemeal?

    3. Why did the English king not properly exploit his victory?
  5. The Galatian

    The Galatian New Member

    Aug 18, 2001
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    In the long run, Crecy and Agincourt were bad for England, since they encouraged a dream of a continental empire.

    But nations were a-building by then, and France was French. And kings and battles began to mean less than the loyalty of people to an idea of nationhood.

    Ultimately, the French won. Even though the English were superior in arms, the French won.

    The English won, too. They became England first, and later went on to the most far-flung empire in history.

    The first modern history lesson, it was.
  6. Matt Black

    Matt Black Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Feb 25, 2003
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    Yes, the 100 Years' War marked the emergence of England as a nation from being an Anglo-Norman polity, viz Henry's father, Henry IV, being the first English-speaking king, Chaucer, the "sumer is icumen in" Latin-English wordplay etc. The Black Death helped as well, mind you...

    Yours in Christ