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Aiding and abetting illegal immigration

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Wesley Briggman, Apr 4, 2019.

  1. FollowTheWay

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    Under your line of reasoning Christians are not responsible for supporting government policies to reduce or prevent abortion. Correct?
     
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    No, what he obviously meant was Christians should keep voting for the party that has enshrined abortion on demand and defend it at all costs, just like you do.
     
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    The government is not obligated to create programs to reduce or prevent murder, but it is obligated to enact laws against such violence, and to bear the sword, i.e., execute those who violate them.
     
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    Trump should close the border because it is apparent that the rich of Mexico are aiding and abetting this illegals and it is apparent that sanctuary cities of rich Democrats will not welcome these people from Central America.
     
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    Nailed it.
     
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    The abortion rate is now at an historic low, lower than it was before a Republican Supreme Court ruled on Roe vs. Wade. Why? Because abortions go down when contraceptives are readily available and poor people have access to family planning information. The GOP wants to do away with both of these. That will increase the number of abortions in the U.S. You seem to support increasing the number of abortions. Why?
     
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    It sounds as if you support the utterly ridiculous law proposed by the Texas state legislature to enact the death penalty for women who have abortions. Is that true? What does right to life mean to you?
     
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    Is that why Dems support infanticide?
     
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    Why don't Dems want illegals in sanctuary cities? They vote Dem.
     
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    No. Again, why do you support and advocate for the party of infanticide and abortion on demand? How do you reconcile supporting that with the commandment "thou shall not murder", seeing that it's murder?
     
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    I assume this is a rhetorical statement/question, since I'm sure that you KNOW that no logical, common sense, discussion can be had with a modern leftist, as both characteristics are foreign to them?!?!
     
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    You seem to have things quite backward here, intent on punishing the innocent to the point of executing babies in the womb, and at the same time exonerating the guilty of such murder. Are you suggesting that abortionists, aka baby killers, should be considered lifegivers, lifesavers with a guaranteed right to life and liberty to perform these first degree murders? Those pro-Democrat go even further by expecting me to fund such murders and murderers.
     
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    I'm saying that killing a woman who has an abortion doesn't fit into my idea of pro-life. Isn't her life as valuable as the child's?
     
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    Isn't the child's as valuable as the mother's?
     
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    Where do you get that idea? You support the party of slavery abortion and infanticide. I am sure that you want more active death panels in Medicare. Why don't you want 50,000 illegals in your town?
     
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    No, in justifying abortion, you are saying that her life is far more valuable than the baby's.
     
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    You mean the child that was murdered, which would mean that she too should be put to death, according to your own logic. That would make her life as valuable as that of the baby.
     
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    While I heartily approve of quoting scripture, these passages have nothing to do with the subject at hand. Moreover, they do not negate the teaching of Jesus in Matthew 25:31-46. You WILL be held accountable by Jesus. Do not reject His clear teaching.

    I don't know where you get the idea that immigrants do not work. It's not true.

    Immigrants come to the United States to provide for themselves and their household. Again, I don't think you understand the situation at all.

    No one has claimed that works make one righteous. However, being righteous makes one work. If you are a disciple of Jesus, you will leave nationalism behind and be concerned about all the peoples of the world.
     
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    Most of them do work, but they are here without the permission of the U.S. government. But many of them will not be working. Do you think the pregnant mother of 4 from Guatemala will be getting a job upon arrival? Not hardly. She will have that baby in an American hospital at taxpayer expense, will then receive WIK and other government stipends, and any school age children will receive a free education.

    Again, they are here illegally. How come we are making an exception for today's group of "immigrants" but not the one's who came here at a earlier time.? Without the rule of law and it being respected, we will quickly degenerate into a lawless society.

    Even as Christians, we have the right to national border and that border to be respected. Our government ought to be secular and issues such as immigration decided by it on the basis of the law, not theologically. We cannot let every poor person in the world looking for a job to enter the country.
     
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    Thank you very much!

    Of course, the welfare burden and the extra costs for prison space and mental hospital space and the exploding crime rate are all reasons to reject any more immigration.

    Did you hear what Cardinal Sarah said about immigration?

    Cardinal Robert Sarah, Prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments, last week told a French publication that mass migration is "new form of slavery" and "It is a false exegesis to use the Word of God to promote migration. God never wanted these rifts," according to Fox News.

    ...cited the example of Poland, a Catholic country that has strict immigration policies, and said he had urged it not to sacrifice its Polish and Catholic identities "on the altar of a technocratic and stateless Europe."

    "She is free to tell Europe that everyone was created by God to be placed in a specific place, with its culture, traditions, and history," he told the paper. "This current desire to globalize the world by suppressing nations, specificities, is pure madness."

    Cardinal Robert Sarah: Mass Migration is 'New Form of Slavery'

    The global elites want a return to mass slavery through immigration.
     
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