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Al Mohler Takes On Ann Coulter's Tawdry Record of Cheap Shots

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Martin, Mar 15, 2007.

  1. Martin

    Martin Active Member

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    Good for Dr Mohler! :thumbs:

    "Ann Coulter has turned herself into the evil queen of mean. She has lowered herself to embarrassing theatrics and crude humor. More seriously, she clearly does not mean all insults as a joke. In a recent book, she attacked some 9/11 widows as publicity hounds. She has a tawdry record of cheap shots, crude slurs, and indefensible personal attacks.

    Conservative institutions cannot afford any association with this kind of language or attack. The issues are far too serious to be treated in this manner, and the very convictions Ann Coulter often defends are now sullied by association with her.

    Referring to John Edwards by using a word meant to demean homosexuals? What was she thinking? Ann Coulter has never been married. She has been known for once dating Bob Guccione, Jr., son of the Penthouse magazine magnate. John Edwards, on the other hand, has been married for almost thirty years to his wife, Elizabeth. Together they have had four children, Wade, Cate, Emma Claire, and Jack.

    Wade died in a tragic car accident at age 16, throwing the Edwards family into a grief that often tears spouses apart. Their marriage not only survived the tragedy, but went on to produce Emma Claire and Jack. John Edwards stood by his wife through her more recent fight with breast cancer, and there has never been a scandal associated with their long marriage.

    I oppose John Edwards' political platform, but not John Edwards the man, husband, and father. I do not want to see him elected President of the United States, but this has everything to do with his political positions, not his personal life. I do not appreciate his crude oversimplification of the challeges that face our nation, but I must oppose any crude talk about John Edwards the man." -SOURCE

    Ann Coulter is not Christ like and should not be supported by any Christian or Christian organization.
     
  2. Ps104_33

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    She sure seems to be getting under your skin an awful lot lately. Relax. Dont pay any attention to her if you dont like her. Its people like you and the media who keep giving her all this attention. She thrives on shock. Besides she truly believes that the liberals are destrying this country and she fights fire with fire.
     
  3. Martin

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    I think this is the first post (OP) that I have written about Coulter. I responded to something others said but I have not written much about her. So not sure where you are coming from. Anyway my point here is that Mohler has come out and condemned her statements.
     
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    Maye this is Dr. Al's "witch hunt" and what he found? :laugh: :laugh:

    I agree as to the cheap shots, even with having just taken one at Ann Coulter. :laugh:

    And, FTR, I am about as conservative as Ann Coulter ever thought of being, I assure you.

    Ed
     
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    Absolutely true.

    I don't know if Ann knows what she really believes anymore. It's hard to separate her beliefs from her schtick. She's become a caricature of herself.
     
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    As Christians, we should refrain from such absolutes. We cannot tell people who to support, who to listen to, who to read...etc

    As much as I absolutely adore the downfall of Err America, far be it for me to tell brothers and sisters in Christ who they should support. (I feel we should support nothing, but missions to feed, clothe, heal & evangeliize, but that's still an opinion)


    A statement like yours is just a small step to "people who read Ann Coulter aren't Christians"....
     
  7. JFox1

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    Don't get me started on Ann Coulter! I tried to read her book, Godless, once, and I couldn't get past the fourth page! I was glad to return that to the library! YUK!
     
  8. Martin

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    ==My brother read one of her books. I know because I saw it on the bookshelf at his apartment a few months ago. I asked him what he thought about her and he said that he agreed with many things she said though he said he would not use her language. I gave him all my Bill OReilly books about a year or so ago (long before my boycott) and he has other conservative books (Shawn Hannity, etc). Most of my books are historical or theological in nature. I have a few political books but not that many. Personally I don't think I could stomach reading one of Ann Coulter's books. My brother is smart and everything, smarter than me which is probably not saying that much, but he is a loyal republican. I am a republican myself but I am by no means loyal. After all I have always voted for a democrat for North Carolina governor (Mike Easley). The republican party has never put up a strong candidate. In '04 I was ready to vote for Patrick Ballantine but then I watched the debate and realized Easley needed to stay. In '08 it looks like I am either not going to vote for President or I will vote third party. If I could go back in time I would have written in Alan Keyes name in '00 and '04. I regret voting for George "the liberal" Bush.
     
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    I hear more complaints from so-called conservatives here on Ann Coulter's remarks than I ever hear on Rosie ODonnells outrageous statements or Bill Maher's,or Don Imus',. How about this gem from Chris Rock:

    CHRIS ROCK UNLEASHED: "USA 'READY FOR A RETARDED PRESIDENT, WHY WOULDN?T IT BE READY FOR AN AFRICAN AMERICAN PRESIDENT"?'
     
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    Only hazarding a guess here, but maybe that is because O'Donnell, Maher, and Chris Rock are not fronting as serious journalists/legal analysts. Their entertainers. Their opinion of politics really don't matter all that much. If what they say is funny laugh, if not move on, simple as that. Coulter is the same, too bad she fancies herself as more enlightened than the rest of us. She needs to spout off at the mouth because otherwise no one would pay attnetion to her. Her opinion means nothing to me, although she does make me laugh. The sheer audacity of the woman can be midly amusing at times.
     
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    ==Maybe that is because conservatives don't take comedians/performers like O'Donnell and Maher seriously? They are actors and not political commentators claiming to represent the conservative position. Imus is a radio host who, on some issues, hits the nail square on the head. However I can see why some democratic or republican party "faithfuls" don't like him.

    As for Chris Rock, well, he is a comedian. Comedians are performers, actors, characters. To take anything they say too seriously is a mistake.

    Ann Coulter is neither a comedian, performer, or entertainment talk show host.

    Btw, I am not a "so-called" conservative I am an extreme conservative. I assure you I am more conservative than 95% of the conservatives who support Bush. I am more conservative than Jerry Falwell, D James Kennedy, James Dobson, and Paige Patterson put together.

    Al Mohler is also a strong conservative. However I would say I am more conservative than he is in some ways.

    Why do I say that about myself? Because I believe in a limited federal government. I'm not one of these conservatives who likes big government pushing conservative ideas. I never like big government. In this way I am a faithful Jeffersonian in that I believe that the government that governs the least governs the best.
     
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    I find Ann Coulter embarrassing because people might think that what she says represents what I think. Heaven forbid! While I might agree with some of what she says, I would never say it that way. AND the general problem I have with political pundits is that they put forth what they think as though everyone remotely associated with them agrees with them. AGAIN - Heaven forbid!

    On the comedians/singers/entertainers, I do wish they'd learn some discretion. When did we as a society start saying just any old thing that popped into our collective set of brains?
     
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    Oh yeah!! Well I'm more conservative that Peter Ruckman, Jack Hyles, the whole John Birch Society, Tom Delay and Rush Limbaugh and Martin all put together. HA HA HA!

    grow up.
     
  14. Martin

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    I'm glad to see that you dealt with my actual arguments (about Coulter, O'Donnell, etc) in such a direct way. I'm very impressed. As far as my comments about different levels of conservatism you avoided responding to my actual arguments (consistant belief in limited government, etc). I suppose sarcasm and sound bites are much more fun than actually engaging arguments?
     
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    It is common for people to mix humor with serious comentary. This is what Ann does. She fits in a catigory with Dennis Miller, and Jon Stewart.

    Ann just gets attacked for it becasue she does it so well and does it for the conservatives.

    I like Ann, Dennis and Jon. A speach with serious points that is mixed in with humor is alot more interesting to me then just strate faced opinion.

    Ps. One of the ways you can tell she is right, is because she is attacked for her style not her content. What she is saying is correct.
     
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    Nope - you are forgetting the fact that Ann Coulter is not funny. Please show us where what she said is funny, and that it was offered in a manner consistent with that of Miller and Stewart.

    Dennis Miller and Jon Stewart are comedians, and are portrayed as such.

    She gets attacked because most of what she says/writes is over the top.
    Perhaps you can comment on that to which Ann compared wishing someone a "Merry Christmas." It was found in the article entitled "Ann Coulter 2005." Show us where that was either humorous or insightful.

    Regards,
    BiR
     
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    Was that in a national forum, or a local one? If it was the latter, then you have already demonstrated that MSNBC covered it.

    Hope all is well,
    BiR
     
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    They covered it but, did it get the negative attention. In fact it spawned several people who agreed and repeted it. Liberals were not calling it outragous.

    It got covered but did not get the negative attention. And it was alot ALOT more inflamitory and out of line then anything Ann has said.
     
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