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All given = all come and him drawn = him raised

Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by The Biblicist, Feb 1, 2014.

  1. The Biblicist

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    Jn. 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

    1. The most simplest and natural interpretation is that him drawn is the same him raised.

    2. The next verse is a quotation of prophets which in context proves this intepretation is true as "all shall be taught of God" where "taught" is provided as a synonym for "draw" and by prophetic context this "all" refers only to children of the New Covenant - Isa. 54:13; Jer. 31:33-34; Heb. 8, 10

    3. Jesus is speaking to the very same audiance in John 6:44-45 (vv. 41-43) as he is in John 6:36-40.

    4. All given by the Father to the Son equal all who "shall come" to the Son equal NOTHING LOST - vv. 37-40 and the reason all given do in fact come is that him given is him drawn - vv. 44-45.

    5. All given equal "him that is raised up" (vv. 39a,40b) just as all drawn equal "him that is raised up" (v. 44b).

    6. There are "some" in John 6:64 who NEVER WERE DRAWN BY THE FATHER (v. 65) and yet the EXTERNALLY heard, MENTALLY learned and PHYSICALLY came to Christ and VERBALLY Professed Christ but NEVER WERE TRUE BELIEVERS. Hence, to "draw" in Jn. 6:44 means more than mere EXTERNAL, MENTAL, VERBAL coming to Christ but refers to the INTERNAL work of God "in the heart" whereby God REVEALS Himself in the LIGHT OF KNOWLEDGE whereby sin is exposed by that light as well as the Savior andd as a result the person comes to christ "with the heart."

    7. There is no other true salvation than by INTERNAL REVELATION - Mt. 16:16-17; Gal. 1:15-16; 2 Cor. 3:3; 4:6; Ezek. 36:26-27; Jer. 31:33-34; Deut. 5:29; 29:4; 1 Thes. 1:4-5. However, false professors/tares can EXTERNALLY hear, MENTALLY learn and PHYSICALLY come and VERBALLY profess and yet remain lost. The saved experience all the EXTERNALS in addition with the INTERNAL revelation.
    #1 The Biblicist, Feb 1, 2014
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