Why should we? Our form of government is neither. We are a Constitutional Republic.
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Amputations w/o Anesthesia: Future of US medicine?
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Bob Alkire
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Why should we? Our form of government is neither. We are a Constitutional Republic.
You are correct. And what I was taught about it;
A Republic, it is controlled by Law, it does not control Law.
It recognizes the private independent sovereign nature of each person, therefore a Republic must be representative in its nature.
The Constitution of the United States of America was, in Law, foundationally based on the Bible, the Magna Carta, and The Declaration of Independence. These documents recognize man’s sovereignty, the divine nature of man’s creation and man’s divine right to Life, Liberty, Property, and the pursuit of happiness.
OK, so Jim was right about billwald. He doesn't know what socialism is.
And good job, gang, on pointing out the obvious: We are not a democracy, nor do we wish to be one.
Gold Dragon
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When did North Korea become the model socialist state with regard to any aspect of socialism?
It is just one more example of the logical conclusion of it.
North Korea shows us what one gets when coupling socialism with an insane leader.
One doesn't have to go that far to see problems...look at the problems Britain is having with NHS.
That is apparently the case in North Korea.....media mostly reports inadequately or completely false....
My understanding of the American system is that I would NOT want to be a part of it. When health is profit driven, any benefit for the user is a collateral benefit.
Having said that, I have never encountered an ideal system, NZ employs a very generous government sponsered system which blind freddy can work out is unsustainable with a population base of 4 million people.
My understanding of the American system is that I would NOT want to be a part of it. When health is profit driven, any benefit for the user is a collateral benefit.
Having said that, I have never encountered an ideal system, NZ employs a very generous government sponsered system which blind freddy can work out is unsustainable with a population base of 4 million people.
Frankly, I don't know of any health systems in the world that is without problems. Britains probems stems from the fact it allowed the Lords to have their say and mix private and public medical services.
Canada partially allowed medical people to dictate services at their financial pleasure. Generally speaking, we have a very good health system. I have received health care without undue financial hardship. Granted, there may be some waits for some services, but if something is urgent it is given immediate attention.
Back to England, before national health, the poor folk depended on the gypsies and home health care. Doctors were vrtually out of the picture. We just couldn't afford it and went without. The same was true when I first came to Canada, but quickly changed when a national healthcare system was introduced.
I wouldn't trade the Canadian system for any other country.
By the way, in the western free world, socialism is democracy with social responsibility, and no way relates to pure socialism or communism. I believe the Bible and our Lord Jesus teaches this.
Cheers,
Jim
Canada partially allowed medical people to dictate services at their financial pleasure. Generally speaking, we have a very good health system. I have received health care without undue financial hardship. Granted, there may be some waits for some services, but if something is urgent it is given immediate attention.
Back to England, before national health, the poor folk depended on the gypsies and home health care. Doctors were vrtually out of the picture. We just couldn't afford it and went without. The same was true when I first came to Canada, but quickly changed when a national healthcare system was introduced.
I wouldn't trade the Canadian system for any other country.
By the way, in the western free world, socialism is democracy with social responsibility, and no way relates to pure socialism or communism. I believe the Bible and our Lord Jesus teaches this.
Cheers,
Jim
>A Republic,
"Republic" only refers to the method of selecting one's government. If you all accepted republican form you would not be complaining about the people who were democratically elected to govern the US. You all want a Baptist Theocracy.
>it is controlled by Law, it does not control Law.
That concept is as useful as "sola scriptura" because there is no agreement as to what the Constitution or the Bible means else there would not be 50 Baptist denominations.
"Republic" only refers to the method of selecting one's government. If you all accepted republican form you would not be complaining about the people who were democratically elected to govern the US. You all want a Baptist Theocracy.
>it is controlled by Law, it does not control Law.
That concept is as useful as "sola scriptura" because there is no agreement as to what the Constitution or the Bible means else there would not be 50 Baptist denominations.
Funny, though...when folks want stellar heathcare from other parts of the world...they come here....
And the "profit-driven" system, when government doesn't destroy it, allows the consumer to vote with his/her feet. You, the insurer, mistreat me? I'm going to your competitor...
(and yes, there are several things in the US system that need fixing as well)
Ahh, this maybe true for the fabulously wealthy but I know that Aussies at least go to India and Singapore for some surgeries in the belief that they are stellar. Cheaper with excellent housekeeping etc.
Please, do not overlook the fact that no system is perfect in my humble opinion. We as humans always fear the unknown, I would feel as you do with the massive overhaul being touted for the USA. It is a forgone conclusion that the taxpayer will not be a winner.
Please, do not overlook the fact that no system is perfect in my humble opinion. We as humans always fear the unknown, I would feel as you do with the massive overhaul being touted for the USA. It is a forgone conclusion that the taxpayer will not be a winner.
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