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An Ode To Me !

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Rippon, Apr 27, 2006.

  1. Rippon

    Rippon Well-Known Member
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    Some believe in election ,
    Oh , no , not me ,
    For I know He chose me,
    because my faith He did foresee.

    He saw that I would choose Him ,
    and He saw something good in me ,
    Reacting to that foreseen good ,
    He chose me .

    God cannot force a free person
    To choose to come to Him .
    Salvation must be by free will
    And up to the sinner's whim.

    God would be unfair to pick and choose ,
    Whom He would save and whom He would lose ,
    God values us so much that He lets US choose .

    I know the Lord loves me .
    But His love can't set me free .
    God loves the whole world ,
    Butmost of them don't see .

    His blood is not the answer ,
    Nor His love for me .
    Sure , hell is full of sinners
    Who had the same chance as me .

    Christ tried to save a lot more
    Than those who come to Him .
    But He dare not violate their will ,
    So many stay in sin .

    If only they had seen their need , like me .
    They would be free ,
    I guess they were not as humble ,
    as little old me .

    While others plug their ears and eyes ,
    I chose to see .
    God's grace did just enough ,
    To leave it up to me .

    I chose my own destiny .

    I am glad I chose aright .
    So many foolish people
    Are going to get a fright .

    But I know God in heaven
    Respects the choice I've made .
    I know He wishes that others
    His Son their Lord had made

    Jesus died for all men
    When He suffered on that tree .
    But sadly many of them
    Will perish eternally .

    It really isn't God's fault
    He tried His best , you see .
    But salvation is important
    So He left it up to you and me .

    Yes , I am a sinner , but my will's still free
    To choose or reject Him,
    Who died for me .

    If I did not choser Him ,
    and accept what He did for me ,
    My sins Christ could not forgive ,
    So , He waits for me .

    In fact , it would all be useless ,
    Christ's work upon that tree ,
    If co-operation , acceptance and agreement ,
    didn't come from me .

    Yes, the Spirit draws me ,
    But I can refuse to see ,
    If it weren't for me helping him,
    He's never have saved me .

    Jesus did His very best ,
    when He died on Calvary ,
    He paid for all sins , but for all His pains ,
    Only some of those go free .

    God doesn't mind sharing ,
    some of the glory with me ,
    He and I have an agreement ,
    you see ?

    Jesus came from heaven .
    And died upon a tree ,
    So that His great salvation ,
    Would be entirely up to me .

    Free will , free will coming from me ,
    Is what makes me a Christian ,
    Everyone has it , not everyone uses it ,
    Come on , use it , be a Christian and be free !

    ( by Martyn McGeown )
     
  2. Deacon

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    I don't like the second stanza that goes:

    He saw that I would choose Him ,
    and He saw something good in me ,
    Reacting to that foreseen good ,
    He chose me.


    Much to close to a works salvation for my taste.

    I don't know why I have been elected to salvation.
    I don't know why He chose me.
    Nothing in me could be deemed worthy of His grace and mercy.

    Rob
     
  3. Tom Butler

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    Rippon, I praise you and honor you because of your intelligence and wisdom. Oh, I do give credit to God for saving you, but I give you some of the credit, too. God must really be grateful to you for choosing Him.

    Rippon, you da man!
     
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    To Rippon be the glory! Oh, and a side of glory for God, too.
     
  5. Dustin

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    [​IMG] Can someone help me, I came into this forum now I can't get out. I'm stuck in Rippons sarcasm.
     
  6. Magnetic Poles

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    Reminds me of one of my favorite songs . . .

     
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    ...and I didn't read much further than that.

    Boy do I feel foolish, I misssed the sarcasm!
    For too many people this poem would ring true.

    Rob
     
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    ...and I didn't read much further than that.

    Boy do I feel foolish, I misssed the sarcasm!
    For too many people this poem would ring true.

    Rob
    </font>[/QUOTE]Yeah, and free willers say there's no pride in free willism. ;)
     
  9. Timtoolman

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    I think you all have really missed the pt. Have not really listen to what "free willers" have said. Until you deal directly and honestly with what is presented and said. You will never get them to understand your side. It seems just as prideful when they discribe it!
    May God give us some men who do not have too one up the other but really want to guide him to truth so that God gets the glory. And men get to dwell in it.
     
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    I won't touch that comment with a ten foot pole!
     
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    I won't touch that comment with a ten foot pole! </font>[/QUOTE]I almost said, "You want fries with that?" but it didn't seem to fit anywhere. ;)
     
  12. Brother Bob

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    Hogwash!! and sad. :(
     
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    Throwing some more gas on the fire? Hope everyone had a good time.
     
  14. Brother Bob

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    Just telling it like it is. ;)
     
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    another Calvinist Armenian thingy. heres your sign.
     
  16. rsr

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    Anyone else got barbs they want to get in? Better hurry.
     
  17. Rippon

    Rippon Well-Known Member
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    Now honestly , don't you think that many FW'ers would be in accord with at least 90% of that ode ?The truth hits too close to home .

    If most of a Calvinistic persuasion can own up to that nomenclature of Calvinist despite its bad reputation in many quarters of the Christian world , why can't Arminians own up to their real name of Arminian ? I am being charitable here . It just seems so ironic or silly not to claim what you really are theologically . Cries of " I don't want to be pigeon-holed ." notwithstanding .
     
  18. doulous

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    You ever notice that Ted Kennedy does not like to be called "liberal"?
     
  19. Rippon

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    Yes , I have . It has application to the Christian world at-large .
     
  20. Brother Bob

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    Has a calvinist thread ever been closed without a so called free-willer making a response post?

    [​IMG]
     
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