Anna Nicole Poll: Does 73000+ views merit fruit?

Or you can say the Jesus Christ she was promoting in that video was one who allowed fornication, drunkenness, and who knows what other sins.

She sure was not promoting the Jesus Christ I serve. Her lifestyle proves that beyond a shadow of a doubt.

 

Come on, Aslanspal,

Anna was not there to promote Jesus Christ. Pay attention to the video. It was the Academy Awards, not a Church function.

It was people heralding their (to coin a phrase) Hellywood movies. And she was a big part of it. Dressed in sexy attire to draw attention to Anna Nicole Smith, not to the Lord Jesus Christ. And her words prove it as well. She was promoting self before Christ.

 

Let's try this again. I said initially...
I think we take Matt. 7:20 out of context sometimes, and read into it what is not there. It simple says you will recognize them by their friut. It doesn't say if you don't recognize them, they have never produced any fruit or they are not saved. I think if we were to walk through Sodom and Gamorah, and applied Matt. 7:20 the way we do, we would be back here on the BB saying that Lot had to have been a homosexual, and due to not seeing fruit was burning in hell today.

 

ASLANSPAL, I do not think anyone here condemns the late Anna Nicole Smith in her death. The way I gather, people are discerning her life and examining the fruits thereof. While we truly do not know where she is a the present time (heaven of hell), we are compelled by the following Bible verses to look at her life and examine the fruits. That's all.

Matthew 7:13-24 "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock...."

 

Porn sites have a lot more views than Anna Nicole's site.

What kind of fruit are they producing?

Just because a site has a lot of 'hits' does not make it worth looking at...

 

Wrong again. Lot was married, with two kids. I do not judge him by the condition of where he lived, I don't know why you want to argue with me, my mind is made up. Trying to change it will bear no fruit.

 

It's clear your mind is made up. You seem to be very unteachable...not a good trait to have. Try looking at what I was alluding to...and not what you think I am alluding to. Lot NEVER showed "fruit" from Scripture. Who cares if he was married with kids? All we have to do is look at his lifestyle. He lived in a homosexual city. He offered his daughters to be molested (Gen. 19:8). He was self seeking (Gen. 13:10). Even when told to leave, he didn't want to go, he had to be dragged out of the city! (Gen. 19:16). He got drunk and committed incest (Gen. 19:31-36)
Looking at this man's lifestyle (from what we know), would you be here on the BB declaring Lot "righteous"...or would you say the same things about him as you did Anna (from what we're told by the media)?

Lot showed NO fruit. Zilch, nada. Lot was declared righteous by God.
Anna Nicole Smith showed NO fruit. Zilch, nada. We DON'T KNOW how God declared her!

 

Lot left when he was told. Case closed, on Lot.

Why the obsession with him ? I already said he blew it. What do you want ?
Good day, webdog.

 

You clearly don't know the story that well. He didn't leave when told. Read it again...
Gen 19:15 As morning dawned, the angels urged Lot, saying, "Up! Take your wife and your two daughters who are here, lest you be swept away in the punishment of the city."
Gen 19:16 But he lingered. So the men seized him and his wife and his two daughters by the hand, the LORD being merciful to him, and they brought him out and set him outside the city.

I don't have an obsession with him. You have a hard time reading I guess, as you STILL miss the entire point of me bringing Lot up in the first place. Either that or you have selective reading habits.


Lot showed NO fruit. Zilch, nada. Lot was declared righteous by God.
Anna Nicole Smith showed NO fruit. Zilch, nada. We DON'T KNOW how God declared her!

 

John Gill's Exposition on Genesis 19:16

I agree here with John Gill. They were not drug out of the city, but led out.

Other commentators also agree with this.

 

Lot didn't have the Holy Spirit living in him either,, a christian does. Fact is you should see some sort of fruit in a real christian, nudity, drugs and sex are not fruits of the Spirit. This was the praticed habit of her life, she liked it that way, she sought it out.

**** Sorry donnA for editing your post, but you forgot the all important word "not" from your post. (Barnabas) ****

 

ummmm....
Donna?

check your post above.... QUICK!!!!

 

Was Lot deemed Righteous or not?

 

Lot was deemed righteous. But just because he lived in Sodom and Gommorrah does not mean he was of that place.

We, as Christians, are in the world but not of it.

 

That is nothing more than assumption on the part of Gill. The Hebrew doesn't agree with Gill, either...

H2388
חזק
châzaq
khaw-zak'
A primitive root; to fasten upon; hence to seize, be strong (figuratively courageous, causatively strengthen, cure, help, repair, fortify), obstinate; to bind, restrain, conquer: - aid, amend, X calker, catch, cleave, confirm, be constant, constrain, continue, be of good (take) courage (-ous, -ly), encourage (self), be established, fasten, force, fortify, make hard, harden, help, (lay) hold (fast), lean, maintain, play the man, mend, become (wax) mighty, prevail, be recovered, repair, retain, seize, be (wax) sore, strengten (self), be stout, be (make, shew, wax) strong (-er), be sure, take (hold), be urgent, behave self valiantly, withstand.

Also...from Barnes:
"The visitors now take steps for the deliverance of Lot and his kindred before the destruction of the cities. All that are related to him are included in the offer of deliverance. There is a blessing in being connected with the righteous, if men will but avail themselves of it. Lot seems bewildered by the contemptuous refusal of his connections to leave the place. His early choice and his growing habits have attached him to the place, notwithstanding its temptations. His married daughters, or at least the intended husbands of the two who were at home ("who are here"), are to be left behind. But though these thoughts make him linger, the mercy of the Lord prevails. The angels use a little violence to hasten their escape."

Clarke:
"laid hold upon his hand - pulled them away by mere force, the Lord being merciful; else they had been left to perish in their lingering, as the others were in their gainsaying."

Keil & Delitzsch:
"As soon as it was dawn, the angels urged Lot to hasten away with his family; and when he still delayed, his heart evidently clinging to the earthly home and possessions which he was obliged to leave, they laid hold of him, with his wife and his two daughters"

Henry:
With what a gracious violence Lot was brought out of Sodom, Gen_19:16. It seems, though he did not make a jest of the warning given, as his sons-in-law did, yet he lingered, he trifled, he did not make so much haste as the case required. Thus many that are under some convictions about the misery of their spiritual state, and the necessity of a change, yet defer that needful work, and foolishly linger. Lot did so, and it might have been fatal to him it the angels had not laid hold of his hand, and brought him forth, and saved him with fear, Jud_1:23. Herein it is said, The Lord was merciful to him; otherwise he might justly have left him to perish, since he was so loth to depart.

 

Lot's actions tell us otherwise.

 

Forgive me webdog, but I do not see any comparison between Lot and Anna Nicole Smith.

 

Let the woman die, folks. It does no good to debate about her now.

 

Follow the thread, and you will understand.