Apparently Blacks DO equate "THUG" with the "N" Word

[Zaac]

Contrary to what folks on here THINK, looks like black people do equate the two words.

Richard Sherman's post-game rant Sunday night has overshadowed every other Super Bowl storyline, even the ones involving Peyton Manning's relative struggles in the postseason and/or cold weather.

We've now heard from just about everyone on the matter -- from Pete Carroll to Tom Brady to John Madden.

On Monday, Sherman, writing for TheMMQB.com, explained that while family and friends congratulated him on the victory, "Many of my Twitter mentions were less supportive," which is about as diplomatically as you can put it. He has since apologized for making the moments following the game about himself and not his teammates.

During a Wednesday press conference, Sherman was asked if "thug," a word that was used often on message boards and social media to describe the Seahawks cornerback, bothers him more than any other term.

"The reason it bothers me is because it seems like it's an accepted way of calling somebody the N-word now," he said. "It's like everybody else said the N-word and then they say 'thug' and that's fine. It kind of takes me aback and it's kind of disappointing because they know.

"What's the definition of a thug? Really? Can a guy on a football field just talking to people [be a thug?] ... There was a hockey game where they didn't even play hockey! (Laughter from the media) They just threw the puck aside and started fighting. I saw that and said, 'Ah, man, I'm the thug? What's going on here?'" (More laughter from the media). So I'm really disappointed in being called a thug," he said.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24417234

 

[Aaron]

So. . . .? I don't equate the terms. Who cares what some blacks think?

 

[Gib]

I wonder if Sherman is speaking for all blacks? Are blacks equating "THUG" with the "N" word or is just Sherman's opinion? When a black person hears a white person call another white person a thug are they equating that to a white person calling the other white person a "N"?

 

[Zaac]

I wonder if Sherman is speaking for all blacks? Are blacks equating "THUG" with the "N" word or is just Sherman's opinion? When a black person hears a white person call another white person a thug are they equating that to a white person calling the other white person a "N"?

Is there someone who speaks for all white people?:laugh:

Sherman is an intelligent young man who understands what's going on around him. He's saying it because more and more Blacks feel that way.

I live in Atlanta and attend a diverse church. I think it was about 5 years ago that we were in SS school class and one of my white students called one of my black students a thug. You could have sworn someone lit a fire and threw a can of gasoline on it. Good thing I'm a strong boy and quickly diffused that. But the black kid said pretty much what Sherman said.

That "thug" is being used when white folks want to call black folks the "N" word. He said it was right up there with when you hear white folks refer to black people as "ghetto trash".

We ended up having a wonderful lesson on Ephesians 5.
Follow God’s example, therefore, as dearly loved children 2 and walk in the way of love, just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.

3 But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people. 4 Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving. Eph. 5:3-4

Unfortunately, a lot of white America in and out of the church are oblivious to how black people see things. And like Aaron, they don't care.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

Contrary to what folks on here THINK, looks like black people do equate the two words.

Sure they do. The problem is, they think the words used towards each other is a positive thing!

 

[Aaron]

Richard Sherman is a mouthy, arrogant butthead. Who cares what mouthy, arrogant blacks say?

 

[Zaac]

Sure they do. The problem is, they think the words used towards each other is a positive thing!

In some instances yes. But that is something that has to be addressed within churches, communities and by parents and educators.

I've heard Sean Hannity do it. I've heard Rush Limbaugh do it. And I must say I cringe every time because I see that kid who was in my SS school class and how he responded and I realize that talk radio has given angry white people a license to express that anger. And like Aaron, once again, the angry white people don't care who knows tha they are angry so they say whatever they want and don't give a flying hoot how it's perceived or interpreted by people outside their circle.

It's especially sad when it's coming from the church.

 

[Zaac]

Richard Sherman is a mouthy, arrogant butthead. Who cares what mouthy, arrogant blacks say?

You know enough about him to call him those things so apparently you and a bunch of other folks care what he says. :laugh:

 

[Scarlett O.]

Unfortunately, a lot of white America in and out of the church are oblivious to how black people see things. And like Aaron, they don't care.

I wouldn't call it being oblivious.

I would call it having to listen to black people talk out of both sides of their mouth and confusing the rest of us.

You aren't the only one coming from a diverse church, Zaac. I do, too, and others here do as well. We have a couple of black doctors, a recently deceased international professor who was black and more highly educated people of color. We also have dozens of black children from the local projects that we bring to church every time the doors are open.

Here's what I mean by confusion.

ALL you hear from the internationally praised rap groups who pervade pop culture is "niggah, thug, b*tch, and wh*re". Sex is the god of rap music and pop culture. The people of color in this music genre cannot be touched - they are sacred to their community and if anyone complains of their message, they are called racist or Uncle Tom.

In many schools that I have taught in, these four words are used constantly from the mouths of students of color against each other and it's always a socially acceptable thing (from their own mouths) to do. I've tried in vain for years to stop it - a white person will never be able to.

All I ever get it "Aw, Ms. Kim - you cool, you cool - you can call us niggah - we don't cahe". Needless to say, that word never passed my lips of these students that I loved very much. I tried explaining it to them from a white person's point of view, but they never understood.

I am finally at a school where that kind of talk is unaccepted and many of the black parents of these students are greatly relieved.

So, if these words mean NOTHING to the majority of pop-culture accepting black people 40 and under - why should I care?

I do care. I don't say these words to people of any color. The word, thug, to me is a universal word that has been around for long before it became a rap word and popular to be.

I just want to hear you say that you understand the confusion that the black community presents.

If these words are so demeaning, then why do they call each other those names - with abandon?

 

[Winman]

When I hear the term "thug" I tend to think of organized crime like the Mafia. They are not black.

I have never once thought of black persons when I heard the term thug.

 

[Gib]

Is there someone who speaks for all white people?

Nah. But apparently Sherman speaks for all black people according to the OP.

Unfortunately, a lot of white America in and out of the church are oblivious to how black people see things.

The same can be said about a lot of black America. And why just harp on white people here? What about all the asians, hispanics, indians and others that call Sherman a Thug. I've never seen you address other races, just whites.

Sure they do. The problem is, they think the words used towards each other is a positive thing!

This is prevalent in our neck of the woods. I hear more and more young black youth calling each other the "N" word. I also hear a lot of young white youth calling each other the same. The majority of these offenders are boys.

 

[exscentric]

"Is there someone who speaks for all white people?:laugh:"

Of course there is, sorry you didn't get my memo!

 

[ShagNappy]

Nah. But apparently Sherman speaks for all black people according to the OP.

I would be more inclined to listen to what a black fella had to say about fellow blacks than to listen to what a group of obviously biased, if not outright racist, white people had to say.

It's not "is there someone who speaks for all white people," it's white people think they speak for everyone, period.

 

[Gib]

It's not "is there someone who speaks for all white people," it's white people think they speak for everyone, period.

That's your either your opinion or I'm the only white person in the world that doesn't believe that.

 

[Aaron]

When I hear the term "thug" I tend to think of organized crime like the Mafia. They are not black.

It doesn't matter what you think. It only matters what black people think.

 

[Winman]

It doesn't matter what you think. It only matters what black people think.

Well, I get the impression this fellow is trying to take the attention off himself for being such a big-mouth. He made a fool of himself, and now he is trying to redirect attention off himself.

Is it OK to call him a big-mouth, or does that offend all black people too?

 

[Squire Robertsson]

I am trying my best not to post my thoughts about this remark. At the very least, I am ruling it out of order. Therefore, I am closing this thread.

Richard Sherman is a mouthy, arrogant butthead. Who cares what mouthy, arrogant blacks say?