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Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by Yeshua1, Dec 31, 2020.

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  1. Yeshua1

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    That is why we have infallible translations off TR/MT and CT for us today!
     
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    Who gave the translators that inspiration then?
     
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    2 Timothy 3:16-17.
     
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    Since the Bible translations that are faithful to the best textual evidence are reproducing the originals faithfully. Is it not possible that the inspiration is still alive in the Word
     
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    This passage does not say what you want it to
     
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    If you believe Scripture is a product of man then how can it be infallible?
     
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    Yes, it does. You just have not figured it out yet :p

    This is not the reason I believe inspiration less superficial than some here believe. I was just giving that to Yeshua1.
     
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    Please enlighten me
     
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    I see no derived inspiration, but do see infallibility of translations!
     
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    I believe that the promises of inspiration of Lord Jesus just applied to his Apostles and their books!
     
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    Did the Holy Spirit guide any translators as He did the Apostles to record it down?
     
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    You are not looking hard enough
     
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    All the Writers of the Bible were not Apostles
     
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    I believe that God's Word is inspired, and that human writers expressed in human terms (in their words) what God revealed with God preserving His Word in the writing.

    So where you look to individual words as being "God's Word" (and therefore only the original autographs) I view the words recorded to communicate God's Word (and therefore inspiration transcends translation).

    This is why we will never agree on thus topic (and how we could easily talk past one another).
     
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    So you do not believe Paul considered the Old Testament to be Scripture. Interesting position.

    You exclude the OT, Luke, Acts, and Hebrews.
     
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    Has any besides KJVO ever claimed that though? Know none of the translators on say Nas/Esv/Nkjv have!
     
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    True, but those such as mark and Luke were under the Apostle inspiration umbrella, as peter covered mark, and paul same for Luke!
     
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    Nope, jesus was referring to just the NT there yet to be produced, and inspiration was given to all of the NT canon books!
     
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    This is the strangest position I have ever encountered on this topic.

    Jesus and the writers referred to Scriptures and quoted the Old Testament, but you believe Jesus was not referring to Scrioture that existed when He referred to Scripture but the gospels and epistles that would be written decades after the Resurrection.

    I have to say, I disagree with @SavedByGrace but I understand his view (and hope he understands mine). People do not have to agree, sometimes it is good enough to understand differences.

    But I cannot make any sense out of your view. Can you provide a reference explaining your position here?
     
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    Jesus and the Apostles already accepted and knew that the OT canon was fully inspired, and he was telling us and them that their books to be written were on the same inspiration level as OT prophets, as same Holy Spirit would inspire their works!
     
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