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Featured Are you going to Heaven, or not? #2; SINAI before CALVARY

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Alan Gross, Nov 3, 2022.

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    @Alan Gross,
    Adam and Eve did not actually know what evil was until they disobeyed and obtained the knowledge of it from that tree.
     
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    Is this the, "that tree", you are talking about?

    6 "And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

    7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
     
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    adapted from: Genesis 3 Gill's Exposition

    And the Lord God said,.... The Word of the Lord God, ...
    within Himself, or to the Other Two Divine Persons:

    behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil;

    of which I know of the following scenarios. Do any of them 'fit' your idea?

    1.) which is generally understood as an irony or sarcasm at man's deception by Satan, who promised man, and he expected to be as gods, knowing good and evil;

    behold the man, see how much like a god he looks, with his coat of skin upon his back, filled with shame and confusion for his folly, and dejected under a sense of what he had lost, and in a view of what he was sentenced to;

    2.) yet must be understood not as rejoicing in man's misery, and insulting over him in it, but in order the more to convince him of his folly, and the more to humble him, and bring him to a more open repentance for affecting what he did, and giving credit to the devil in it:

    though I rather think they are seriously spoken, since this was after man was brought to a sense of the evil he committed = CONVICTION,
    and to repentance for it, = REPENTANCE and had had the Promised Seed revealed to him as a Saviour, = FAITH and, as an emblem of Justification and Salvation by him,

    3.) was clothed with garments Provided by God Himself: wherefore the words are to be considered either as a declaration of his present state and condition, in and by Christ, by whose Righteousness he was made Righteous, even as he is righteous, though he had lost his own;

    to whose image he was conformed, now bearing the image of the heavenly One, though he was deprived of that in which he was created, having sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

    and was now restored to friendship and amity with God, favored with his gracious presence, and having faith and hope of being with him forevermore;

    the eyes of his understanding were enlightened by the Spirit and grace of God, to know the good things which God had provided for him in Christ, and in the Covenant of Grace, a better covenant than that under which he was made, and which he had broke;

    and to know the evil nature of sin, its just demerit, and the atonement of it, by the death and sacrifice of the promised seed:

    4.) or else the words are a declaration of man's past state and condition, and may be rendered, "behold, the man was as one of us" (o);

    4a.) as one of the Persons in the Deity, as the Son of God, after whose image, and in whose likeness, he was made;

    4b.) both as to his body, that being formed according to the idea of the body of Christ in the divine mind, and which was not begotten, but made out of the virgin earth;

    4c.) and as to his soul, which was created in Righteousness and Holiness, in wisdom and knowledge, and was like him in the government he had over all the creatures: and besides, he was in many things a type of Christ, a figure of him that was to come;

    especially in his being a federal head to his posterity, and in his offices of prophet, priest, and King;

    and being created in knowledge, after the image of him that created him, and having the law of God inscribed on his heart, he knew what was good and to be done, and what was evil and to be avoided:

    but now he was in a different condition, in other circumstances, had lost (those portions of the term,) "the image of God", and friendship with him, and his government over the creatures;

    and had ruined himself,

    and all his posterity, and was become unholy and unwise;

    for being tempted by Satan to eat of the forbidden fruit, under an expectation of increasing his knowledge, lost in a great measure what he had:
     
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    Yes
     
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    That interpretation effectively denied what was said by God was a serious statement. God's words in Genesis 3:22, ". . . Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: . . ."
     
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    No, Satan sinned long before man was made. When he appeared to Eve as Sneaky Snake, he'd already sinned namy times long before that. Sin is disobedience to God.
     
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