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As a Christian, how can this statement be justified.

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by Jailminister, Mar 8, 2004.

  1. Jailminister

    Jailminister New Member

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    This quote was given by John Kerry, in regards to gay lifestyles. How can a Christian believe that?
     
  2. Daniel

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    The politics of expediency and pragmatism. He wants to be President so badly that he will cater to every group, regardless of who that group is or whay they believe. This should be a no-brainer.
     
  3. vaspers

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    I'm not Republican or Democrat. Jesus said His kingdom is not of this world, so I personally focus on that. Others work in politics, okay, but I focus on other things.

    Yet, Howard Dean said he would speak of Jesus in the southern states only. Al Sharpton accused Dean of "regional Christianity." This I agreed with, and felt repulsed by Howdie Doodie Dean.

    I trust and support no politicians at all, ever.

    I pray for government leaders, and pay taxes, and that's it. Have never, and never will, vote for anything or anyone. Will not lift a finger to help any political cause or party.

    God sets up one and brings another down. God is the Head of the Disunited Nations of this world, He is in control.
     
  4. Paul of Eugene

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    Whoever is president will have to govern a country that includes homosexuals as citizens. What else can the president do but treat them fairly and according to law? It's not like they were trying to join a church and he has the option to tell them they need to repent or they can't join.
     
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    I understand your concerns and respect your position... you make great points. However, I have a question: if one does willingly refuses to vote, then does he/she then give up their right to voice his/her opinion and criticism about leadership and laws? This is a point brought up by my pastor. Just asking your thoughts.

    God bless!
     
  6. zucchini

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    I personally feel that the Lord calls us to be good stewards not only of our money, but also of out time, talents and yes even the freedoms and powers we enjoy as citizens of a democracy.

    If all Christians were to sit back and not make know as best as possible what is right and wrong according to His law, then the mirror of His law (remember those verses?) has been shattered and discarded.

    And yes you do abdicate the right to bemoan the excesses of our society.

    So I see that we ought to make our best efforts to evaluate all political leaders for whom we might vote the way the Lord might see their platforms. So I will vote for the one with the best (or closest approximation of) moral character, better if they know Christ (unlike Kerry), and best of all if they point out people to the Lord and oppose abortion and laws supporting hedonism.

    Cheers!
     
  7. freeatlast

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    This quote was given by John Kerry, in regards to gay lifestyles. How can a Christian believe that? </font>[/QUOTE]The fact that he claims to be a Christian does not make him one. It's that simple.
     
  8. LadyEagle

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    Trying to get the "Christian" vote. Hmmm... :rolleyes: Like nobody has tried that before....Hmmm.... :rolleyes:
     
  9. Pennsylvania Jim

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    Both the Democrat and Republican candidates claim to be Christians. Neither, for the most part, promote policies consistent with Christianity or the founding principles of our nation. I would like to suggest considering Michael Peroutka:

    http://www.peroutka2004.com/
     
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