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Featured Aspersion, Affusion & Immersion. All acceptable?

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Mikey, Oct 20, 2018.

  1. rsr

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    Understood, Robert. The grammar police are having some well-deserved doughnuts.
     
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    I believe it's IMMERSION when at all possible. Occasionally it's simply impossible, but GOD knows the story there.

    In Scripture, all who were baptized were immersed, but Jesus gave us the example of the repentant thief on the cross whom He saved, despite the impossibility of his being baptized.
     
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    Immersion of the already saved person is the Biblical model given to us in the NT, but not use that to divide from Christians such as Reformed who disagree!
     
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    What in the world? Where do you come up with this stuff?
    Since when do Reformed disagree that the Biblical model was immersion?
    Calvin himself declared it was immersion!

    Calvin's Commentary on John 3:22-23 :

    "John and Christ administered baptism by plunging the whole body beneath the water"

    [vv. 22-23 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized. And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.]
     
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    Jerome, every Reformed denomination I know of save the Reformed Baptists anoint or pour. They are also pedo-baptists, not credo-baptists.
     
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    Yes, sad isn't it that the Reformed will admit the Biblical model was immersion and proceed to do otherwise.
     
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    This thread reminds me of a short debate between a liberal loon college student and Ben Shapiro over the Boy Scouts being sexist.

    The young lady asked "Show me in the Boy Scouts charter where it says it is for boys only."

    To which Ben Shapiro replied, "Right there in the name you quoted. Boy Scouts."

    Why is baptism by immersion? Because βαπτιζω is only transliterated, but when translated means to "dip or immerse."

    So, why does "immerse" mean "immerse." Uh, well, because "immerse" means "immerse."
     
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    The problem is, of course, that the OP is predicated on an incorrect assumption.

    There are not three modes of Baptism. There is only one mode of Baptism.

    Aspersion (sprinkling) is not βαπτιζω it is ραντιζω which would transliterate to "rantize" NOT "baptize."

    Affusion (pouring) is not βαπτιζω it is ἐπιχέω which would transliterate to epicheo NOT "baptize."

    In order to get the right answers you have to ask the right questions. :)
     
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    It is interesting though that quote in which even John Calvin agree its by immersion!
     
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