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Atonement and early the Reformed

Rippon

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By "debates" I mean it was a debatable issue within Calvinism. Am I to assume that you disagree that within post-Calvin orthodox Calvinism the Atonement was debated and there was various views...
I don't know what divisions at the end of the 17th century you are referencing within Calvinism. Can you flesh that out? Expand on that.
 

Yeshua1

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I don't know what divisions at the end of the 17th century you are referencing within Calvinism. Can you flesh that out? Expand on that.

Would it be safe to say that just as the Arminian theology really has no final say on the issue of if a really saved person can forfeit their salvation, that calvinism has had internal discussions on just exactly was the scope of the Atonement?

That it was not just all agreed to limited atonement, period?
 

JonC

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I don't know what divisions at the end of the 17th century you are referencing within Calvinism. Can you flesh that out? Expand on that.


No need to flesh it out. Really not much to say except some Calvinists believed Christ died for the sins of the world and some didn't. I was only stating the obvious and am not sure on what you are asking me to expound.
 

Yeshua1

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No need to flesh it out. Really not much to say except some Calvinists believed Christ died for the sins of the world and some didn't. I was only stating the obvious and am not sure on what you are asking me to expound.

There never has been just a single strict way to view things theologically even within calvinism, as see presby vrs baptist reformed views/new Coveannt theology/new calvinists etc!
 

JonC

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There never has been just a single strict way to view things theologically even within calvinism, as see presby vrs baptist reformed views/new Coveannt theology/new calvinists etc!

I agree...that was really all I was pointing out on this thread. It seems that "4 point" Calvinists are often viewed upon as inventing a "newer Calvinism"...or as Rippon says, coming out with a new revelation. I was only saying that this is not the case...an argument can be made that TULIP is not representative of Calvinism as a whole.
 

Yeshua1

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I agree...that was really all I was pointing out on this thread. It seems that "4 point" Calvinists are often viewed upon as inventing a "newer Calvinism"...or as Rippon says, coming out with a new revelation. I was only saying that this is not the case...an argument can be made that TULIP is not representative of Calvinism as a whole.

many of Baptist calvinists would fit into being 4 pointers though, and there is also the question of does calvinism mean one must support the entire covenent theology system or not?
 
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