Baptist Perpetuity proven from Church Discipline.

[Alan Gross]

CHURCH DISCIPLINE
“If he will neglect to hear them tell it to the church: but if he
neglect to hear the church, let him be to you as an heathen man
and a publican.”
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“Truly, I say to you, Whatsoever, you will join on earth will be Bound in Heaven;
and whatsoever you will loose on earth will be Loosed in Heaven”
[Matthew 18:17-18].
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This text suggests three simple questions that believers in an “invisible” church might try to answer:
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a. How can a wronged brother tell his grievance to an “invisible” church?
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b. How can an “invisible” church decide an issue, make known its judgment to a trespassing brother,
or execute that judgment “if he neglected to hear?”
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c. Is not the authority to “bind and loose,” whatever this means, in verse 18
given to the same church that is in view in verse 17?
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Obviously the reference here is to an organized assembly; and obviously such organized assemblies
must always have existed from that time until our present time in order that faithful followers of Jesus
might obey His instructions here Given.

 

[Salty]

Well lets see -
I am part of the GSAE - The Greater Syracuse Association of Evangelicals.
We are not a church - we are pastors of different denomination churches in
the Syracuse Area.

I see our group as part of the "Invisible chruch" we are all born again -
Our organization supports the local Pro-life organizations - of which we
have seen salvation decisions. We participate in activites to spread the
Gospel in CNY., ect, ect.

Since we are NOT a church, we do NOT baptize - however , we encourage
new Christians to affiliate with a local Bible Believing church

If someone in our group is "wrong" our president would probably give assistance.
Mind you he is NOT our pastor - but would provide guidance.

Our group does decide issues - within the scope of our organization.

As Christians - we strive to serve the Lord -

I think sometimes - people make too much of an issue of the "invisible church" call
it what you want - the Body of Christ, ect - but we are united in Christ.

 

[Alan Gross]

Rome has no relevance to The Bible Scriptures regarding The Lord's churches.

Rome is a government, just like Islam.

The governmental organization you describe is that of Rome, as is you inability to comprehend these Bible Scriptures, for what God Said, verses what adherents of Rome are supernaturally devoted to, in a supernaturally evil context.

The universal visible or invisible 'church' are absolutely never referred to in any way and can not and are not Taught by God anywhere in the Bible.

They are false doctrine, 100%, and demonic.

Do you want me to Spritually Instruct supernaturally evil adherents to their mother, Rome, as to what God Says?

Explain how I do that to a Saved soul (Provided that is the case we assume for this question) THAT IS NOT CALLED to LEAVE ROME, APPARENTLY, AND HAS NO LOVE FOR GOD OR JESUS OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, WITH REGARD TO THE CHURCHES JESUS FOUNDED AND PROMISED TO BE WITH? The are in The Bible and have been here throughout History?

Rome fights God's Faithful Servants that adhere to His Word, rather than men influenced by Satan, in their teachings of The Bible Practically, and/ or Doctrinally, and/ or Organizationally.

I certainly can't and am Thankful to God for the Clarification about the adherents of Rome being DETERMINED in THEIR CLINGING TO ROME AND IT'S LIES, and, therefore, are not my Calling or ability to convert to God's Ways in God's Words.

Provided they are Saved, they are to be guests at the Wedding, not The Bride.

So be it.

The Bible Teaches that the Word you are doing and are involved in is The Kingdom of God.

All Saved that are alive on Earth are in The Kingdom of God.

The "Family" of God includes all Saved on Earth and in Heaven.

The Lord's churches are churches, to start with.
The word church in The Bible describes a "called out assembly".

The word 'body' you stated means exactly the same as "assembly", but don't ask me to stop the Devote Members of Rome from saying they think what took Satan 1,700 years to change it to isn't somehow, suddenly, it's fresh new meaning.

When someone comes on here with the added description that has been added by Rome, that has been attempted to be added very recently by Rome-Satan, it is not of God.

Rome.

Ask their 'president', or 'home office', or 'administration', or 'conference', etc.

Do those Say anything about Jesus Being The Head of their assembly? their 'president', or 'home office', or 'administration', or 'conference', etc.

I quit posting on here about The Perpetuity Proven by The Bible, or the posts on Jesus Coming, or on Baptist History, or any other, like Prophecy, or anything else, because I don't have any ability to smash through what God may be withholding.

Generally, God has an Order for His Revelations to people.

Line upon line.

If Jesus has One True Bible CHURCH TEACHING, does someone want to know?

I think they have to want to know, as a matter of Prayer and Asking.

You know people have to know they have a need for a Savior, BEFORE they are Granted Repentence and Faith, I guess, I hope, maybe you do, I'm saying. .

Anyway, see, "Hey, believe there was an Historical Jesus, like there was a Christopher Columbus" is not saving Faith, nor is" Pray after me", on and on.

Nobody has Prayed to be Saved or been Taught in The Bible to Pray.

So, people have to be Sound in The Faith and Learn first things first.

I didn't hear much of Calvin, probably, because he baptized infants and persecuted Baptist-type believers to death, in some cases.

Is there a 'deal' where circumsition in The Old Testament or baptism in The New is thought to be indicative with 'a Covenant' with God that can be initiated and entered into?

By who?

A lost soul?

There are a lot of false gospels.

They don't belong in Organizations Jesus is With to Do God's Business.

Where two or more are gathered toger IN MY NAME is a reference to Organized church capacity, as Jesus is Discussing, not 'any two or three' people standing around somewhere.

Jesus Has Been With His Organized assemblies, as He Promised.

Rome could care less about Jesus churches.