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Bennett Fires Back Against Racism Charges

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Dragoon68, Sep 30, 2005.

  1. Dragoon68

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    Rush Limbaugh did a great job on this today.

    Why don't these folks go after Byrd ?
     
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    Did I miss something while I mourning the death of Maxwell Smart???

    Did he really say or imply that crime would go down if more black babies were aborted? Can someone post a transctipt of the conversation?
     
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    I think I heared him refer to the Book Freakenomics. I think this book had something to do with it. The majority of people in prision are black men, so it would stand to reason that crime would go down, but he went on to say that for many reasons, this is a stupid road to go down. I agree.
     
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    Many of us, in discussion, make statements for the purpose of argument, illustration, etc. that in no way suggest, imply, or affirm some personal belief. In fact we sometime state the opposite of our belief for emphasis. For someone to take such comments out of context and twist their meaning is completely unacceptable. That's what has happened to Bennett!
     
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    Another dog and pony show.
     
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    It's called playing advocatus diaboli, or devil's advocate. It's clear that this is what happenned here. What's the big deal? Dog and pony show indeed, it seems.
     
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    I am sure the senate majority leader is of the same opinion. But with blacks voting democratic 90 percent of the time, they must keep them in the fold. With their growing economic success they might be tempted to vote republican, so the demos must use the racist scarcrow every time they can to keep their black base or they loose big time.
     
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    It's called playing advocatus diaboli, or devil's advocate. It's clear that this is what happenned here. What's the big deal? Dog and pony show indeed, it seems. </font>[/QUOTE]Perhaps the "devil" gets mad when we "play the devil's advocate" verses actually being his advocate.

    I hope Bennett's reputation is not harmed by the false implications being made about what he said and meant.

    I was disappointed with the "politically correct" response from the White House.
     
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    :mad: :mad: :mad:

    If the WH can't be NON-PC, then they ought to keep their mouth shut!

    I voted for the Repubs because they were the "conservatives" & I look to them to counter the [inappropriate language snipped], not become a part of it!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

    I think we've all heard how the democratic party left it's constituents; well it seems that the repub party is trying it's [inappropriate language snipped] best to do the same!

    [ October 01, 2005, 01:23 AM: Message edited by: C4K ]
     
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    well it seems that the repub party is trying it's [inappropriate language snipped] best to do the same!
    </font>[/QUOTE]It sure does.

    [ October 01, 2005, 01:23 AM: Message edited by: C4K ]
     
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    Bennett is doomed. It doesn't matter how much effort is put into defending his statements, the liberal press and the Democrats will spin this till he's destroyed.
     
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    The comment was innapropriate- point blank, whether it was taken out of context or not. It was offensive and it played on stereotypes of African Americans.

    Before anyone tells me, I am fully aware that prisons have disproportionate amounts of African Americans compared to the total population of African Americans. There are, however, reasons as to why this "might" be. (emphasis on might)
     
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    In other words, Mr. FilmProducer, you think that certain subjects are off limits even if one says that the hypothetical is reprehensible and false at the beginning and uses the hypothetical to denounce racism? However, we do know that African-Americans have a large percentage of the total abortions in relationship to their overall membership in the society--is this a cause for any concern?

    Mr. FilmProducer, "On average, 1,452 black babies are aborted every day in the United States" (source cited below). What do you say about that, Mr. FilmProducer?

    http://blackgenocide.org/black.html

    cmg
     
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    First of all it is "Mrs." [​IMG]

    Secondly, I do not believe any subject is off limits. His comment was innapropriate, to me, because it was taken out of context and used, by others, to perpetuate stereotypes. He should have used a little more common sense. Remember, we are all selective listeners. While the Democrats selectively heard his comment put of context, there are most likely listeners who also took his comment out of context in the literal sense. This is how stereotypes are perpetuated. I hope this clarifies what I was trying to say.

    Third, I do not totally agree with your comment on abortions. I do believe the abortion rate for African Americans is high, as I don't believe in abortion. However, teen pregnancy is much more prevalent. Whereas in their white couterparts abortion is higher. I do not have time to link to exact statistics, but I will do so in the next day or so. Studies have shown that African Americans are much more likely to have a baby out of wedlock, and white teenagers are more likely to have abortions. There are many reasons for this, the main one, I believe, would most likely be cost.

    With that being said, I understand what he was trying to do. I just believe he could have pointed it out in a more constructive way.
     
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    Sometimes the truth is just not welcome in a discussion.
     
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    I diagree with your conclusion. The context in which something is stated makes a lot of difference in how something should be taken. The mere mention of race need not be taken as a offense to persons.
     
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    Statute of limitations?

    Bennet's assertion is offensive. While he and Rush insist that it it true, that is debatable.
     
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    Statute of limitations?

    Bennet's assertion is offensive. While he and Rush insist that it it true, that is debatable.
    </font>[/QUOTE]It's only debatable if one is in denial.
     
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