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Biden tap dances on abortion

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Revmitchell, Sep 8, 2008.

  1. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell Well-Known Member

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    Pelosi, and Now Biden: VP-Nominee says Life Begins at Conception, but Won't "Impose" his Faith on Others
    After saying that Catholicism says that life begins at conception, Biden went on to say that there was "debate" in the Church about when life begins

    By Thaddeus M. Baklinski

    September 8, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Senator Joseph Biden, the Democratic nominee for vice president, strayed from party ideology on abortion rights yesterday, declaring that as a Catholic, he believes life begins at conception, but then went on to say he would not "impose" his personal views on others. Later in the interview he also seemed to suggest that life may not begin at conception after all.

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  2. Pastor Larry

    Pastor Larry <b>Moderator</b>

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    Al Mohler had a good article today on the absolute idiocy of this statement by Biden, showing how intellectually fraudulent this statement is.

    But, look at the bright side ... At least these two don't want to kill wolves. It's only babies they are unconcerned about.
     
  3. dragonfly

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    I agree with Biden!
     
  4. Revmitchell

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    Biden doesn't even know how to agree with himself on this issue. How can you?
     
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    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
     
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    Go back to 1999 when McCain was running against Bush for the nomination. On 8/19/99 he told the San Fransico Chronicle "He opposes the repeal of Roe verses Wade, it would force women to have dangerous illegal Abortions". On 8/21/99 on CNN Late Edition he said, "No litmus test for a running mate or Supreme Court nominees". He's now singing a different song, but he still is opposed to a constitutional amendment, he wants it to go back to the states, in other words let someone else deal with it. As for the Republicans (I voted for Bush in 2000), they had control of the Senate and the House for 6 years, the presidency and 7 of 9 on the Supreme Court were appointed by Republicans, yet as far as the abortion issue the status quo hasn't changed. They only want to "talk" about it at election time. I rather vote for a wolf, than a wolf that talks like a sheep, I was warned about them.
     
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    You need to do some research on this my friend.
     
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    Why don't you address the points... oh that's right, you can't. Nevermind.
     
  9. Pastor Larry

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    So you too think murder should be left up to individuals to decide? Al Mohler exposed this nonsense very well.

    As for McCain, he is a bad candidate. His only redeeming quality is that he not Obama, who would be a disaster for this country of unimaginable proportions. It is clear that McCain and Obama are worlds apart on judicial nominees, and that matters.
     
  10. Revmitchell

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    He said the status quo has not changed. This is false. While Clinton vetoed partial birth abortion ban it has since passed. No status quo there.

    And as far as McCain well he is still wrong:

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18632802


    Nice ad Hominem. Got anymore?
     
  11. donnA

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    Thats a problem it seems. What happens when it is left up to individuals to decide if murder is ok.
    What Biden is saying is, I believe human life starts at conception, but it's alright to individuals to decide to murder a human being, that being one who is defensless, and the one person they are supose to be able to count on for their defense is the one wanting them murdered.
    It's either right or wrong to murder a baby. What does God say?
     
  12. targus

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    It's funny that Biden would say this considering that Pelosi got spanked by the Catholic Bishops after saying much the same thing.

    He's just asking for the Bishops to say that he is also wrong and that he too should not be going to communion because of his beliefs on abortion.
     
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    How can you believe that life begins at conception but then stand by and do nothing while another human being is murdered.

    I can understand those who don't believe life begins at conception. If that baby is not a baby but is instead a "mass of tissue" that does not contain and soul and is not human, well if that were true then abortion would be just another medical procedure and should be protected by the same rights of privacy we give doctors and their patients in other matters. Now I don't believe that is true, but if it were, and if that is what they belive then I can at least understand their point.

    But, if you, like Joe Biden professed, believe that the unborn child is a human life then how can you support the legal murder of that person? How can you stand by while this great injustice is imposed on those millions of people robbed of the most basic of rights, the right to live?
     
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    You should be able to get several answers as there are those who support this wacked out position on this board.
     
  15. donnA

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    This only works for those supporting obama. There are those on the board not supporting obama and his all out abortions. And politics is one way of fighting, or approving abortion.
    Just so you'll know and can't accuse me of anything, we don't have any abortion clinics here, and the 2 local hospitals do not preform abortions. At least not known legal abortions, I have no idea if they or any doctors are preforming them. I know a few years ago someone wanted a doctor at the local hospital to preform an abortion and the hospital refused. End of story, she had the baby.
     
  16. Andy T.

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    Biden's statement is equivalent to this:

    "I am personally against rape, but I don't want to impose my personal views on others, so I think rape should be legal, safe and rare."

    What times we live in.
     
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  18. dragonfly

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    Apples and oranges!
     
  19. targus

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    True. In the case of rape the victim lives. Not so with abortion.
     
  20. Andy T.

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    Please elaborate and defend your claim, instead of just making bald assertions.
     
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