Billy Graham

Thess,

Cool down a little, bro. I'm sorry to say, but you're not being charitable, so it's hard to condemn lack of charity, if you see what I mean. We should take a step back and look at what we write before we post it. A lot of times, I just erase a post I was writing and walk away. So many times, the things I was going to say were pointless except to attack the other person. If we're right, God knows it. If we're wrong, we should admit it.

Just my thoughts, brother.

 

Along those lines,... isn't it funny the posts we sometimes create and put so much thought and effort into out of anger or in retaliation...only to accidentally erase or lose it otherwise. I personally have had this happen a number of times and I've come to view it as a blessing,- without exception, as something I would have posted would have been in error or too aggressive. God sometimes watches after us in spite of ourselves!

 

Please go over there and point out how I "assasinated" your character. I truly do not understand, at all.

Let's go over there and see if I never acknowledged it. I believe I posted in response to this a while back. Maybe you just didn't read it.

My friend, if I never posted something, what would you think? Would you think I was avoiding your question, even if I forgot to post or it didn't work, because you never saw a response?

Should I post the hateful email that you sent me? You talk about somebody attacking someone, you definitely did that. I do not stoop to false attacks and hateful name calling. How did I respond to your email? Was it hateful, calling you names like you did me? I don't believe so. I could post my response as well and let others decide, if you like.

I am not "superior." When I am wrong, I will admit it. I don't defend it at all costs. So please, don't play that game with me. You were the one who did not post a response to a direct question (for whatever reason), you are the one who makes accusations and associations (just like Bob and others), you are the one who posted a source for a defense of 34,000+ Protestant denominations, and you are the one who pokes fun at people and calls them names. So, when you get called on it, why can't you just say you were mistaken or didn't mean to come across that way or there were wires crossed? I really don't understand. Please show me where I "attacked" you.

In Christ,
Neal

P.S. You call me a hypocrite, but I don't post "I still like you" on here and then later that day send a hateful email and publically call someone a bigot and accuse them of just trying to belittle Catholics. I have already told you elsewhere, I don't care if you were Catholic, Protestant, Muslim, Mormon, JW, or whatever.

 

I believe I have settled the issue on another thread. Grant. Thanks for your thoughts. Apologies to the board.

Blessings

 

How could you "prove" that he was - without relying on pure hear-say?

In Christ,

Bob

 

Can't confirm or deny about masonry. However, I do know that he is a compromising apostate fool who doesn't believe in a literal burning Hell.

 

God bless Billy Graham.

 

Good for you, Mike!

This Catholic holds Rev. Billy Graham in very high regard!

So, I join you in sayhing, GOD BLESS BILLY GRAHAM!

God bless,

PAX

Bill+†+


Almighty and eternal God, you gather
the scattered sheep

and watch over those
you have gathered.

Look kindly on all who follow Jesus,
your Son.

You have marked them
with the seal of one baptism,
now make them one
in the fullness of faith
and unite them in the bond of love.

We ask this through Christ our Lord.

Amen.

 

Good for you, Mike!

This Catholic holds Rev. Billy Graham in very high regard!

So, I join you in sayhing, GOD BLESS BILLY GRAHAM!

God bless,

PAX

Bill+†+


Almighty and eternal God, you gather
the scattered sheep

and watch over those
you have gathered.

Look kindly on all who follow Jesus,
your Son.

You have marked them
with the seal of one baptism,
now make them one
in the fullness of faith
and unite them in the bond of love.

We ask this through Christ our Lord.

Amen. </font>[/QUOTE]What's not to love? He's faithfully preached the Gospel for more than sixty years and won who knows how many people to Christ. All in all, he's been a wonderful ambassador for Christ and I admire him very much for that. I can't wait to see him get his crown.

Besides, I have to love anybody who manages to get themselves kicked out of Bob Jones'.

As recounted in "Just As I Am":

Bob Jones: "You there...Graham! Wake that man up!"

Billy Graham: "Me? You put him to sleep. You wake him up!"

 

I have often said that if/whenever he visits Rome, there is a Cardinal waiting for him to escort him to the papal residence for lunch!

That is just speculation on my part, but I do know Rev. Graham enjoys a good reputation at the Holy See.

Of course, unfortunately, others would diss Rev. Graham for "cavorting with the enemy."

Are you telling me something I never knew before?

Tell me more about it, please! Did Rev. Graham attend that college? If so, is it common knowledge as to why he was kicked-out?

I'm curious....

God bless,

PAX

Bill+†+

Not riches, but God.
Not honors, but God.
Not distinction, but God.
Not dignities, but God.
Not advancement, but God.
God always and in everything.

- St. Vincent Pallotti -

 

To be blasting Billy Graham is ridiculious! Get a life people. (I say as I spends 90% of his free time on the Baptist Board) Seriously, Biblicially, if you have a problem with Billy Graham, go to him, write him a letter. The Billy Graham Evangelical Association has said he is not a Mason, so you can take that answer or you can call them liars and go on. Of course we have debated Masonry before, but SO WHAT if at some time he had joined a lodge? I joined when I was young. I am not active and haven't paid dues for 20 years or more. Many here, would say anyone I ever led to Christ will actually go to hell because at one time in my life I was a part of the lodge. What a silly thought. If Billy Graham had at some point in his life joined the Masons, so what? I would forgive him.

 

The most disconcerting thing I find about all this is that the media have not been able to get any real good gossip & juicy sexual, financial, character etc., dirt on this man, so now the Christians are taking up the slack!!!

People keep asking "How many of his converts remained true to their confession?" Well, he's not their pastor, so that is not in his "job description". That's a job for the locals; in any community!

Besides, unless you have that data from other "witnessers", of what value is it?

Anyway, my main point is that all y'all can be proud(?) of digging up dirt, true or imagined, that the press would have killed to get!! Keep up the good work!!

Do I agree 100% w/BG; NO! But I am reasonably certain that God is going to say that he (Graham) was far more faithful with his gifts/talents than your's truly, regardless of any disagreement I may have had with any of his theology/actions.

As my ole granpappy used to say: "With friends like this, who needs enemies?"

 

Yes. He did attend and, evidently, he was a thorn in BJSr's backside.

[qb]

As I understand it, at one point, he says that he was asked to leave because of differences with Jones. At another, he simply says that he left to attend school in Florida.

It's been a while since I read the book but he goes over it in his autobiography, "Just As I Am".

Either way, I say "good!" Jones didn't deserve him.

 

Yes. He did attend and, evidently, he was a thorn in BJSr's backside.

[qb]

As I understand it, at one point, he says that he was asked to leave because of differences with Jones. At another, he simply says that he left to attend school in Florida.

It's been a while since I read the book but he goes over it in his autobiography, "Just As I Am".

Either way, I say "good!" Jones didn't deserve him. </font>[/QUOTE]OK, thanks for the info!

I certainly agree with your final statement! Rev. Graham, in my humble opinion, is a Man of God! And God bless him!

PAX

Bill+†+


Forgive us Lord,
when in longing to defend what is right,
when in trying to support the truth
we do what is hurtful and mean,
forgetting to take out
whatever logs are in our own eyes
to take the speck out of the eye of our fellows,
forgetting to work all things in love.

Lord, forgive us
when hurt by our fellow man,
we complain, and strike back.

Heal us Lord,
and give us strength to offer you
our hurts and sadnesses,
to offer you the pain of being corrected,
rather rightly or not.

If it is our job to correct,
help us learn to do it in ways that heal,
not hurt,

And whatever we do in your name,
may we always do it for your glory,
without hate, anger,
or the taint of self-righteousness.

May we learn to be quiet
in our longing and respect for you,
rather than speak words
that would drive any away from you,
or harm those who love you.

And when we speak,
may it always be guided by the Holy Spirit.

Amen.

 

Well that is good to know.

Much better than their old practice of burning people like Billy Graham at the stake.

I am all for the "new" Catholic Church model.

In Christ,

Bob

 

Are Catholics "Allowed" to express independant thought here?

Are there other Catholics that find the claim by Dr. Carroll that Billy Graham would surely have been burned at the stake by the Catholic Church in the dark ages - to be a sad commentary on the state of the Catholic Church in the dark ages.

Is there a shred of Christian integrity left for that group so that someone could come out and make an objective, honest christian comment on this?

(Someone in ADDITION to the RC officials quoted by the Vatican News article on this subject).

In Christ,

Bob

 

Billy Graham's Disobedience to the Word of God.

http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/fbns/fbns15.html

 

Eh, consider the source.