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Biracial Marriage

Discussion in 'Polls Forum' started by SaggyWoman, Jul 31, 2007.

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  1. Black / White

    9 vote(s)
    10.7%
  2. Black / American Indian

    1 vote(s)
    1.2%
  3. Black / Hispanic

    2 vote(s)
    2.4%
  4. White / Hispanic

    2 vote(s)
    2.4%
  5. White /Asian

    2 vote(s)
    2.4%
  6. White / American Indian

    1 vote(s)
    1.2%
  7. Black / Asian

    3 vote(s)
    3.6%
  8. Asian/American Indian

    2 vote(s)
    2.4%
  9. I do have a problem with bi racial marriages.

    10 vote(s)
    11.9%
  10. I don't have problems with bi racial marriages.

    69 vote(s)
    82.1%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Cutter

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    No.
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    No.
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    Glad to answer your questions.
    My opinions are expressed in previous posts. If God commanded me to marry two from different races, I would, but I don't find that in scripture, either.

    Fine. I'm sure from the way I am in the minority on this thread that most in the ministry will marry any couple.
     
  2. FriendofSpurgeon

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    Interesting. Thanks for your honesty.

    As an FYI, all of the above are Christian couples -- all with children. A couple of other items --

    My wife is caucasion, but Hispanic (in other words, she is more "white" than I am). You wouldn't know that she is Hispanic unless you heard her speaking Spanish.

    The Chinese-Jamaican fellow is "white" too. You probably wouldn't know that he is has any Chinese in his background, and you definitely wouldn't know that he is from Jamaica.

    The white guy marrying the Jamaican women is from a mixed family herself. He is an ordained pastor and her father is an ordained missionary.

    Would any of this made a difference?


     
  3. Cutter

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    I definitely would not have presided over this transgender wedding! :laugh:
    No.

    You're welcome.
     
  4. FriendofSpurgeon

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    OK thanks. I honestly don't get it but that's OK. (Thankfully our pastor married my wife & me.)
     
  5. Helen

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    So are you endorsing inter-racial marriage in the name of health?

    Yup.


     
  6. Matt Black

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    I believe it's called widening the gene pool; generally a healthy thing and to be encouraged.

    My own ancestry is mongrel - somewhere in there as well as (I presume) white English is white French Huguenot, white(ish) Greek and Anglo-Indian (here I don't just mean white folk born in India during the British Raj like my grandfather but also further back in the 18th and early 19th centuries when some of my ancestors worked for the British East India Company and married 'native' women); the only evidence of the latter in my physiognomy is my dark hair and brown eyes - I have fair skin and sunburn very easily unless I'm wearing at last Factor 15 sunblock. I'm married to a blonde, 'Nordic' type like Helen and our son has blond hair and brown eyes.

    None of the above so-called 'mixed-race' marriages failed - all went the distance and produced healthy offspring who lived to a good old age - my great-great grandmother was 71 when she died, and her son (my great-grandfather) was 80.
     
  7. tinytim

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    Aren't we all mixed up....
    I know that I am...

    German, English, Irish, Native American, French...(shhhh... don't tell anyone about the french thing!!)
     
  8. webdog

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    Me too,
    German
    Irish
    Scotish
    Welsh (I'm somehow related to Princess Di...don't ask me how, though)
     
  9. 4boys4joys

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    Perplexed

    I understand what you are saying but I just wonder how this would affect two new converts. I know that this is hypothetical but if we have a concivtion we shoud think about how it will affect those we minister to. Leading them to Christ and teaching them they should marry is actually one endeavor.

    Matt. 28:19-20

    Go ye therefore,and teach all nations,baptizing them in the name of the Father,and of the Son,and of the Holy Ghost:

    Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and lo, I am with you alway,even unto the end of the world. Amen

    Leading them to Christ is just the beginning for us.Guiding them in future decisions to live for God would be a natural progression of our God ordained dicipleship duties.

    Please provide a clear passage of scripture that calls this sin ? If you cannot do this,does that mean that those who are in ministry do not have to serve someone because of personal convictions and that they are not obligated to show that this conviction is a direct result of scripture ?

    Could this create a stumblingblock in the lives of other believers ?
     
  10. Cutter

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    God called me to preach the gospel. He did not call me to marry people.
    I preach the gospel, I teach men to observe the commandments, but no where in scripture did the Lord instruct anyone to go forth and marry people.
    I could choose not to marry anyone. It is a duty that mankind expects of their Pastor, so scripturally I am not called to marry anyone. That nullifies your argument.

    Some Ministers choose to not marry those that have been married before, some choose not to marry those that are of different races, some choose not to marry those that are not prepared financially.

    If someone is so weak in their faith that they are offended because of a Man of God's convictions over particular matters such as these I shall pray for them.
     
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    Ahh, but if all Scripture is given by inspiration of God (which it is)
    and 1 Timothy tells us the Bishop is to be the husband of one wife (which it does), I submit to you that the requirement for a pastor to be married is not manmade, but commanded by God.

    So God's Word does tell the pastor to marry someone.
     
  12. Cutter

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    SFIC, I think you misunderstood my post. I meant the Lord did not command me to perform weddings. I am the husband of one wife. 29 plus years, thanks be unto God!
     
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    Be sure and give your wife a little credit too. :thumbs: :laugh:
     
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    Amen! Praise the Lord! Was just trying to interject a little humor there. You are correct, there is no Scripture that speaks that a pastor has to perform marriage ceremonies.

    Could it be leaders are given the role due to the Scripture that shows a leader (Moses) gave writings of divorcement?
     
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    Good one, RB! :D
     
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    Good point, SFIC. Maybe so.
     
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    Cutter, Cutter, Cutter......hmmm, hmmm, hmmm

    That's twice now you've left me shaking my head
    Keep on slaying those windmills

    Love,

    Sopranette
     
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    For Clarification

    I never said you were called to marry people. I only would ask that you would provide scripture that shows that bi-racial marriage is sin, regardless of the fact that you would or would not marry them I would be interested to know if you can show some scriptural proof. Some one who would not marry two people because they are not financially prepared could at least show Bible application for this choice. I was wondering if you could do the same.

    I am not offended by your convictions I just wonder if they result from Biblical foundations, something that all convictions should come from. For you to assume I am weak in my faith so be it. Maybe you could strengthen my faith by giving me a biblical answer so that I can have an answer for any man that asks me. Something I asked in the previous post that you have not yet done.
     
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    True...but if the church you are employed at expects you to, I believe God is calling you to do just that.
     
  20. Mr.M

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    I believe a lot of people like to take the "Look at me, I'm above all that ugly prejudicialness of others" route to satisfy their need for some level of human righteousness/self-righteousness.

    The fact is everyone is prejudice to some degree or another. While there might be a rare exception where that person is minimal in their prejudices (every one stand up and claim to be that exception), the fact is even the least prejudice person is prejudice.

    Only a person who is deluding themselves to satisfy some imaginary social standard of acceptable thinking denies their own prejudices. Look at society, prejudices are quite normal and natural.

    Most people of a particular race or ethnicity frankly prefer company with their own race or ethnicity on a macro social scale. Imagine being a visitor from outer space. You would find immediately that most Asians live with....Asians...most Africans with Africans and most Hispanics with Hispanics and most Anglos with Anglos. This is not an evil, this is normal. Just as people identify with their family and enjoy such familial identification, this reality of human behavior is not abandoned when someone leaves their front door. People for the most part, prefer their own kind.

    This does not mean you can find your own kind only in your own race or ethnicity because as you get to know someone you may discover that beyond the normal immediate identifiers there is a very strong mental compatibility, but it does mean that quite naturally people will use the most common and immediate identifiers for selecting associations.

    The question is not are you prejudice or do you approve of this or that but do you allow your prejudices to override and control how you treat people? For example. I do not care for interracial marriages but my prejudice is not going to supersede my divine imperative to treat people with kindness, patience, divine love and so on. It does not mean I have to select them for social events but it also does not mean I have to automatically exclude them either. It means simply that I have to be honest with myself and not play games and pretend I am above all of this and get to know people in light of my prejudices and treat them as a believer is commanded to treat them.

    So now, I generally do not like interracial or interethnic marriages. I married a white person like me and frankly I was never attracted to other ethnicities and races for romantic considerations. Did I feel bad about that? Of course not. How ridiculous. There are many legitimate reasons for determining to not like such marriages.

    However, simply because a person does not like something is no sound cause for final conclusions or prescriptive treatment of people. We are to rise above our prejudices as believers. Nothing ever says we are not to have them, we are to rise above them. I am sure this is not going to strum the hearts of the PC crowd but honesty is how one should live, even with themselves.

    P.S. To the person that posted the unsubstantiated claim that genetic "Mutts" are healthier and happier...that is easy to type...but absolutely without ANY scientific support.
     
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