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Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by Phillip, Apr 10, 2004.

  1. Phillip

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    What do most Baptists on this board think about Bob Enyart. Is he too combative to be a good Christian or is that combativeness okay? I'm not taking sides, just curious. . .
     
  2. Phillip

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    Does anybody have anything to say about this guy?
     
  3. Jailminister

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    Sorry, I never heard of him.
     
  4. Phillip

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    Try www.enyart.com or www.kgov.com

    Listen to some of his debates. He seems very sharp, but he is pretty radical. I agree with most of his doctrine (at least the parts I have heard) Oh, by the way, jailminister, he STRONGLY upholds the death penalty. I would like to hear your response to those articles or audio clips.
     
  5. Jailminister

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    Phillip, Thanks for the link. I read his opinion and he makes some valid points. The problem is he refers so much back to the Old Testament and I just don't think you can make that argument. Otherwise we would have to put to death children that were disobedient to their parents. The death penalty is a deterent to crime. I somewhat believe that, because we can see stats that show that. However how far do we want to go with the death penalty. in many countries if you are a Christian you can recieve the death penalty. Does that make it right. NO, but it will keep the evangelist out and stop conversions, so I guess it works. My contention is that it is not fair and equal. This country should be above that because our roots are in the Christian Faith. Enyart contends that Jesus, Paul and others approved of the death penalty, yet what he cites is their recognition of it, but not their approval of it. I recognize the death penalty and I submit to it. I do not rebel against it, but I do say it is unfair. Enyart uses Jeffrey Dahlmer as an example of someone who should die. Under our Texas law he probably should, but under the law of the state he was in, he did not recieve it. Either way he is not out in society. Now the question is "Is it possible for Jeffrey Dahlmer to be saved?" If he is put to death, then there is no chance, but as long as he is alive, there is. I believe Jesus came to give life.

    Again thanks for the link. It appears I agree with him on many things. In reading your post and Daniel david's post, it looks like we agree on most things, also.
     
  6. Bethelassoc

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    Phillip:

    I used to watch "Bob Enyart Live" when I was back home (Indiana). He was quite an entertaining person to watch debate on tv. I agreed with most of what he said, too.
     
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    Dear Jailminister, the evangelist is not a criminal, so I don't know if the death penalty for evangelization/conversion is a valid deterrant in that situation.

    Otherwise, I agree it is a deterrant in some cases.

    I tried the links, couldn't get them to work :confused:

    If they worked for everyone else, it must just be my computer, it has been acting like, well, I don't know what this past week.

    Bro. Dallas
     
  8. Jailminister

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    Frogman said,the evangelist is not a criminal

    They are in many countries and I was just pointing that out that that is legal to do so(in those countries), but it is not right.
     
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    People, there are many, many, many laws man has that Jesus and the apostles never directly spoke to.

    The death penalty should be carried out on ALL premeditated, first degree murderers. Period.

    We should have a separate appellate court system that hears ONLY those cases, so that the appeals process only take approximately 6 months. If these people find out they will suffer the same fate as their victim only months from conviction, THAT would be deterrent. But yes, right now, it is not a fair system.
     
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